I can usually psych myself up for the actual thing, I've been up in a hot air balloon and enjoyed it, but looking at pictures of extreme heights gives me a very queasy feeling.JohnB wrote:I'm surprised I managed to look at it, let alone comment. So if I can cope I'm sure you can. I've got photographic evidence of you in places I wouldn't gokenneal wrote:Nearly deleted that picture as it sets off my vertigo..
How did you find out about PO?
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Feeling slightly giddy can't think why!
Hi All
Found the forum some months ago as a spin off from researching eco renovation. A thread about heating oil prices lead to the concept of peak oil which lead here.
Picked the name fron Iain M Bank's Excession book it represents a future I hoped we move into, now I know better
That's a heck of a view Aurora
Found the forum some months ago as a spin off from researching eco renovation. A thread about heating oil prices lead to the concept of peak oil which lead here.
Picked the name fron Iain M Bank's Excession book it represents a future I hoped we move into, now I know better
That's a heck of a view Aurora
Scarcity is the new black
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It looks like Preikestolen in Norway. I dangled my feet over the edge some time in 1986. Nice view
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preikestolen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preikestolen
Hello everyone,
I found the forum while working in a permaculture farm in the South West of France.
I discovered peak oil when an oil geologist friend of mine introduced me to the transition town movement. I have been doing research on it ever since.
I must say, I appreciate the quality of information on this forum and the diversity in points of view.
Glad to be among you,
Matthew
I found the forum while working in a permaculture farm in the South West of France.
I discovered peak oil when an oil geologist friend of mine introduced me to the transition town movement. I have been doing research on it ever since.
I must say, I appreciate the quality of information on this forum and the diversity in points of view.
Glad to be among you,
Matthew
Peak oil conscious since July 2010.
Hi Matthew,
welcome to the forum.
Permaculture and transition are good interests to have round here, plus your Canadian viewpoint and experiences will be interesting to hear about.
Is Peak Oil gaining traction in Canada?
welcome to the forum.
Permaculture and transition are good interests to have round here, plus your Canadian viewpoint and experiences will be interesting to hear about.
Is Peak Oil gaining traction in Canada?
Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Frederick Douglass
Actually, I'm french/british and studying in canada.
As for PO awareness in Canada, it's not as apparent as it is in the UK or France but I think it's coming about. I live in Eastern Canada but I have the impression Western Canada is quite advanced in regards to transition. And the whole tar sands issue is brought up often but I wonder how many times they make the connection to PO...
As for PO awareness in Canada, it's not as apparent as it is in the UK or France but I think it's coming about. I live in Eastern Canada but I have the impression Western Canada is quite advanced in regards to transition. And the whole tar sands issue is brought up often but I wonder how many times they make the connection to PO...
Peak oil conscious since July 2010.
I read a book when I was about 12 (1970), wish I could remember its title and author - but it was a fiction.... sci-fi (ish) and mentioned all the stuff we discuss here!
The author must have been trying to get the message out.
It worked... at least with me.
More recently, I think it was the fuel protests that kicked it off some years ago....
The author must have been trying to get the message out.
It worked... at least with me.
More recently, I think it was the fuel protests that kicked it off some years ago....
Hi everyone,
Thought I’d introduce myself. I started with an interest in the environment and politics in the '70s. Went on to read lots of books and articles including Silent Spring and The Limits to Growth. Was a member of Friends Of The Earth and the Green Party in the '80s. After getting married in the late '80s my idealism was worn down in the nineties by the shift to the right in society and the increasing emphasis on consumption and acquisitiveness.
Gradually became aware of the threat of climate change in the first part of this century. Tried to convince family and friends of the need to reduce our carbon emissions with almost no success. Then became aware of Peak Oil which seemed even more urgent. While deciding how best to prepare for the post-peak future it became clearer to me that an even bigger threat was looming in the form of the imminent collapse of the world’s financial system. At this point I began to think we’re stuffed. I don’t know why but as an internet addict I never thought to search for other like-minded people on the net. When I found this forum it was a great relief and a source of encouragement to realise that there were others actively preparing for a very different future. It’s nice to know that you’re not alone. Now I feel that I’ve wasted lots of time and am desperately trying to catch up.
Thanks for all the useful advice and I hope I can contribute something.
Thought I’d introduce myself. I started with an interest in the environment and politics in the '70s. Went on to read lots of books and articles including Silent Spring and The Limits to Growth. Was a member of Friends Of The Earth and the Green Party in the '80s. After getting married in the late '80s my idealism was worn down in the nineties by the shift to the right in society and the increasing emphasis on consumption and acquisitiveness.
Gradually became aware of the threat of climate change in the first part of this century. Tried to convince family and friends of the need to reduce our carbon emissions with almost no success. Then became aware of Peak Oil which seemed even more urgent. While deciding how best to prepare for the post-peak future it became clearer to me that an even bigger threat was looming in the form of the imminent collapse of the world’s financial system. At this point I began to think we’re stuffed. I don’t know why but as an internet addict I never thought to search for other like-minded people on the net. When I found this forum it was a great relief and a source of encouragement to realise that there were others actively preparing for a very different future. It’s nice to know that you’re not alone. Now I feel that I’ve wasted lots of time and am desperately trying to catch up.
Thanks for all the useful advice and I hope I can contribute something.
Hello Greybeard. I think a lot of us wish we'd found out about Peak Oil sooner!
In other words, financial collapse is a direct consequence of Peak Oil, not (in my opinion) a different threat completely.
Hope that gloomy prognosis hasn't put you off
I find PowerSwitch a welcome relief from the shallow, complacent pseudo-optimism I see in the "real" world. As gloomy as things can seem, it's good to have people to discuss them with [1] and hopefully you'll find that too...
[1] Not sure people feel the same about my Eeyore-like presence
Many, perhaps most, regular contributors to these forums believe that Peak Oil and the financial crisis are fundamentally linked. Our economic system requires growth to function, and economic growth requires ever-increasing use of resources, most importantly oil. Once oil production plateaus, growth stalls; once production starts declining - which it seems set to do soon, and rapidly - well, that will be when things get really "interesting" :\While deciding how best to prepare for the post-peak future it became clearer to me that an even bigger threat was looming in the form of the imminent collapse of the world’s financial system. At this point I began to think we’re stuffed.
In other words, financial collapse is a direct consequence of Peak Oil, not (in my opinion) a different threat completely.
Hope that gloomy prognosis hasn't put you off
I find PowerSwitch a welcome relief from the shallow, complacent pseudo-optimism I see in the "real" world. As gloomy as things can seem, it's good to have people to discuss them with [1] and hopefully you'll find that too... [1] Not sure people feel the same about my Eeyore-like presence
"We're just waiting, looking skyward as the days go down / Someone promised there'd be answers if we stayed around."
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The difference between Ldwig and some others here is that the others don't necessarily see a resource deficient future as a bad thing. Yes, there will be problems and a population reduction and that will be sad for those reduced and their relatives but we have problems already and death for different reasons. It's part of the human condition so why get morbid about it.
Just get on with life, in a different way to others who might perish. Do your best to point others in the right direction but, as my Dad used to tell me when trying to get me to do my homework, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink." If you've done your best and others don't listen, it's tough on them when TSTF.
Do your best, Greybeard, for yourself,your family and those who will listen and don't worry about the others. We're all animals when it comes down to the wire and the fittest will survive to carry the species into a changed future. That future will have its own unique set of challenges but how meet them will determine our fitness to survive. Welcome and work hard. I nearly said "Good Luck" but luck doesn't come into it.
Just get on with life, in a different way to others who might perish. Do your best to point others in the right direction but, as my Dad used to tell me when trying to get me to do my homework, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink." If you've done your best and others don't listen, it's tough on them when TSTF.
Do your best, Greybeard, for yourself,your family and those who will listen and don't worry about the others. We're all animals when it comes down to the wire and the fittest will survive to carry the species into a changed future. That future will have its own unique set of challenges but how meet them will determine our fitness to survive. Welcome and work hard. I nearly said "Good Luck" but luck doesn't come into it.
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It's probably more accurate to say that all of us don't necessarily agree about anything, except that there may be a problem coming up.kenneal wrote:The difference between Ldwig and some others here is that the others don't necessarily see a resource deficient future as a bad thing.
Welcome from another greybeard.
Hi Ludwig, Ken and Biff
Thanks for the welcome. I had realised that all these threats are linked to a fossil fuel-based bubble. The analogy I like best is 'taking the red pill' from The Matrix. It really does feel like you've suddenly woken up from a dream and started seeing everyday life completely differently. As I think Chris Martenson said, once you've started doing some sort of preparation, no matter how little, you feel much better.
I've been learning to grow my own veg for a few years now, with varying success. But it's all useful knowledge. Apart from things like stopping flying (never did that much), reducing car use and saving energy I think the first thing I did that could be classed as a preparation was to buy two LED headtorches for myself and spouse. When my brother-in-law asked why, I said for the coming power cuts and he just laughed. But I think when people around you see you actually doing something differently rather than just talking they start to take a bit more notice.
Next project is a simple battery backup system in case of power cuts and installing even more insulation.
Thanks for the welcome. I had realised that all these threats are linked to a fossil fuel-based bubble. The analogy I like best is 'taking the red pill' from The Matrix. It really does feel like you've suddenly woken up from a dream and started seeing everyday life completely differently. As I think Chris Martenson said, once you've started doing some sort of preparation, no matter how little, you feel much better.
I've been learning to grow my own veg for a few years now, with varying success. But it's all useful knowledge. Apart from things like stopping flying (never did that much), reducing car use and saving energy I think the first thing I did that could be classed as a preparation was to buy two LED headtorches for myself and spouse. When my brother-in-law asked why, I said for the coming power cuts and he just laughed. But I think when people around you see you actually doing something differently rather than just talking they start to take a bit more notice.
Next project is a simple battery backup system in case of power cuts and installing even more insulation.