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woodburner
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I will find a link for you. IMO aquaponics will not provide all you need. Growing in soil will generally provide some, most or all of the micro nutrients. Aquaponics will provide few.
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RalphW wrote:As usuual for the last few years, the arctic ice is behaving in totally unpredicted ways. A persistant summer storm has lasted for three weeks now, keeping the arctic cloudy and cool, and blocking the satellites from getting a clear view. However, there is growing and tantalising evidence that the storm has shattered the thin ice across most of the central arctic and what we are seeing is in fact the disintigration and rapid melt of the ice, so that the north pole itself could be open water (and open water all the way down the Greenwich Meridian, by September.

There is a heat wave an Alaska.
Here's yesterday's polar pic.

http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imag ... .terra.4km

Simply change the last 3 digits for whatever day of the year it is for the very latest, er, 'breaking' news. You can zoom in to higher resolution of a particular area. It's really cool. (But getting warmer).

Read all about it here. http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/

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woodburner wrote: Aquaponics will provide few.
That's got to depend on whether the mico-nutrients are included in the growing solution. Aquaponics is a very productive per unit of land system of horticulture. It's likely to be more labour intensive than conventional growing but could have a place where good land is in short supply.

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Sad to say I spend more time reading Nevan's blog and forum and than I do on powerswitch now. The consequences forum is attracting quite a few PO and limits types, as well as the usual environmental doomers.

So far the environmental trolls have been kept at bay.

Nevan is quite open about being excited as well as appalled by the collapse of the sea ice and its implications. It is climate change visible on a very human time scale.
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biffvernon wrote:Never mind the terrorists, it's us tree-huggers they're after:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/e ... -nsa-prism
They know what's coming, anyone in their position would be foolish if they didn't try to be prepared.

The Pentagon knows that environmental, economic and other crises could provoke widespread public anger toward government and corporations in coming years. The revelations on the NSA's global surveillance programmes are just the latest indication that as business as usual creates instability at home and abroad, and as disillusionment with the status quo escalates, Western publics are being increasingly viewed as potential enemies that must be policed by the state.
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RalphW wrote:Sad to say I spend more time reading Nevan's blog...
And now he's in the Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... scientists
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The best of Snowden's info may still be under wraps. See here.
The cache supposedly contains documents with names of US and allied intelligence personnel, seven current and former US officials and other sources told Reuters.
"The worst is yet to come," one former US official familiar with the investigation said.
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