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- emordnilap
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Oh! Do you disagree that all fossil fuel is too cheap?Tarrel wrote:Actually E, I think I stick to my original comment.emordnilap wrote:I'd've wrote:I agree; fossil fuel is basically too cheap to facilitate behaviour-change at the moment.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
No, not at all. I was merely suggesting that all electricity is too cheap, irrespective of whether it's produced from fossil fuels or not. I suppose myoint is that ENERGY, at the point of use, is too cheap, so it inhibits us from weaning ourselves off excessive energy use. We need to make the excessive use of energy more painful, irrespective of its source. Once we reduce our demand, we have more options about where we can viably source it from.emordnilap wrote:Oh! Do you disagree that all fossil fuel is too cheap?Tarrel wrote:Actually E, I think I stick to my original comment.emordnilap wrote:
Engage in geo-engineering. Plant a tree today.
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No significant extra electricity is used by turning on lighting.RenewableCandy wrote:Lighter evenings might do it (by "recently" I meant "up til last week"!) but that does mean the country burns a hechuvalot of lecky switching lights on! (i.e. the initial surge). Do we really need that much light?
A flourescent lamp uses about twice the nominal power for a second or so when first turned on, other discharge lamps actually use less energy whilst warming up.
Modern lighting with switched mode ballasts or power supplies may use up to 10 times the normal current whilst starting, but only for a tiny fraction of a second, this is a matter of some concern when sizing fuses etc, but is of no consequence as regards overall energy use.
"Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more"
Here's an example of how to really waste precious resources:
http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blo ... ge-vietnam
http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blo ... ge-vietnam
The energy saving trust's solar energy calculator returns an annual output of 750kWh per 1kW of installation for our postcode in Northern Scotland. It gives 860kWh per 1kW installed for our previous location in Hampshire. This might give an average indication of PV generation if the installed capacity was known.clv101 wrote:For real time PV output you're better to just multiply the known installed capacity and location by real time weather information.
Engage in geo-engineering. Plant a tree today.
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From where I sit at my Mac, I have windows, which provide me with real-time weather information. So far, they have proved 100% accurate.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
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As I said, I have a Mac. I also have windows.ujoni08 wrote:So, do you have a Mac or Windows?...From where I sit at my Mac, I have windows
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
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