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extractorfan wrote:People who see the world in terms of right wing / left wing are behind the times. These terms don't mean much at all any more.
I agree. I was just wondering how Postie came to his particular conclusion, which is far from reality.
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jonny2mad wrote: In south Africa you have loads of farmers in place with legal title to their land and the blacks rape and torture them often for days, then cut off parts of their body's while still alive and leave them as part of ritual magic .
Ya know...I let here far too rapidly. I really wish I'd said what a bunch of right wing extremist bastards many of you are...

The above quote... in one of the first threads I've read on here since I thought it was waaaaay too right wing.. is enough to convince me I made the right decision.

Oi... Johnny.. prove it. Yeah.. there's a land grab... but prove what you say. Put up the links about "and the blacks rape and torture them often for days, then cut off parts of their body's while still alive and leave them as part of ritual magic ." Or is it just the modern day crap... where you can come out with outrageous crap and it's "true" cos it's on the internet?

AND.. **** you.. white farmers..with "legal title"? From land grabbed from people at the barrel of a gun generations back?
**** the whites moaning about blacks taking back their ancestral land. Bollocks to any of it. I'm more worried about idiots like you dressing it up as something it aint. ****.

I'd love to be banned for that.. this site is a bunch of right wing nutters.. you've seen I aint been here for a long while.. but without the nutters, you aint got anything. bye.. again.
hmmm muti murders thats where you cut off or cut out a body part of a still living victim for ritual magic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdIcwrbBqJ8 according to that 300 people killed a year in south africa most of the victims in this film are black so you can have some sympathy for them .

Recently some south african women I think they may have been coroners, wrote a book in afrikans about farm killings of whites, and they said most of the murders they had seen were muti killings.

I commented on the story on facebook, may well be able to find it, they were interviewed and someone had put them on youtube, anyway much the same thing happened in kenya .

And you seem to think its ok for black people to do this sort of thing to get back their "ancestral lands" (even when actually a lot of the farmers bought their land ).Where's my ancestral land and would it be ok for me to do this sort of thing ? why not try going to africa buying land and see whether that will make any difference if your the wrong skin colour

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.c ... gs-as.html

http://www.censorbugbear.org/afrikaner- ... witchcraft
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emordnilap wrote:
I agree. I was just wondering how Postie came to his particular conclusion, which is far from reality.
Indeed, I would have more sympathy for an accusation of this group being a bunch of lilly-livered tree-hugging liberals.

Perception, as they say, is everything.
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:shock: This group is a bunch of lilly-livered tree-hugging liberals.

:shock: :shock:
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I said I'd have more sympathy for the accusation than that of [insert old fashioned political persuasion] nutters.

I don't personally believe either.
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jonny2mad wrote::shock: This group is a bunch of lilly-livered tree-hugging liberals.

:shock: :shock:
You have a surfeit of 'l's.

And I'm not in that group - I'm way to the left/south of 'em.
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emordnilap wrote:
You have a surfeit of 'l's.
Oh, and pedants :P

I think the group can be split along a scale of those in the rabid grip of blood lust fever and those suffering the illusion that we're going to pull together and live happily ever after in a blissful agrarian society.

Where are you on that scale? :D
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Left and south.
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"Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right..

...here I am, stuck in the middle with you" 8)
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Whoa, postie! Most of us are camomile tea-drinking lefties on here :D (I think)
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You could do worse that find a SAFI and ask them why they have left the country of their birth to grub a living here.

And I don't mean just white SAFIs either.

Be prepared to have some of your cultural biases challenged though. I've heard some astonishing things from Kenyans when talking about Ethiopia.
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Africa has been at the brown and sticky end of town for a very long time, external interests have made it worse.

There isn't a solution until they sort out a system that works for them both regionally/tribally and equitabily. The way things look today the Western World will be sliding towards them very soon.
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bunch of right wing extremist bastards
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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SleeperService wrote:Africa has been at the brown and sticky end of town for a very long time, external interests have made it worse.

There isn't a solution until they sort out a system that works for them both regionally/tribally and equitabily. The way things look today the Western World will be sliding towards them very soon.
That reminds me of a joke.......


What's brown and sticky?





A stick




I'll get me coat........
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:shock: The book that the two sisters who clean up after farm murders wrote is called 'BLOEDSUSTERS, its in Afrikaans. They say every murder they have seen has been a muti killing where the body's dismembered and bits taken, but the news media don't report them as muti killings .

Still waiting for postie or one of you people who habitually call me names to give me a apology .

I've given you links to the fact that yes black people do chop off body parts and leave the victim alive as part of ritual magic, that its a pretty widespread practice in south Africa (at least 300 people a year and thats ignoring the farm attacks) that they torture and rape victims in farm attacks their victims are often at their mercy for long periods of time.

You all ignored catweazle's post about what genocide watch thinks of the situation

The two Boer lady's who wrote the book giving the interview sadly its in Afrikaans
http://kyknet.dstv.com/2012/05/11/rian- ... -de-jager/

if your on facebook sign up for censorbugbear reports or look at her page or site its just attack after attack
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