Lots of Peeps viewing but few posting.... come on post!

Janco2 · Post by **Janco2** » 23 Oct 2011, 15:17

I certainly don't post much on here nowadays.
The main reason is that there is a lot of bickering going on amongst certain people and I simply don't want to be involved in it.
I do try to post when I feel I have something of value to add but don't really see the point in posting something just for the sake of posting.
I have always found the Preparations section to be of most value to me and frequently act on something I read of there.
Often I'm too busy outside working with the fruit and veg to look on this site more than once a day and others have already responded in a similar way to me.
At the moment we are putting up even more insulation in the area we sit in and where the wood burner is.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 23 Oct 2011, 16:49

Right wing/left wing? That's all so last century.

The real issues are whether folk are nice or nasty and whether they understand logic, can use reasoned argument to arrive at rational conclusions, or are away with the fairies.

I think UE is right to say

I think that Powerswitch may have its most important days still ahead of it, as it becomes clearer that global oil production is in terminal decline.

stumuzz · Post by **stumuzz** » 23 Oct 2011, 17:42

nexus wrote: right wing nonsense being posted, if I want to read some drivel as spouted by /you/ I could read the Daily Mail.

I have taken you to task on this before. Please link to the right wing nonsense i have posted. Last time i asked you did not reply.

stumuzz · Post by **stumuzz** » 23 Oct 2011, 17:44

emordnilap wrote: (barring the 'pasted' bit )

stumuzz · Post by **stumuzz** » 23 Oct 2011, 17:47

biffvernon wrote:
stumuzz wrote: However, the site has been slowly turned into a personal climate change platform (Biff)
Mostly on the section of the site marked 'Climate Change', with just the occasional post in the 'News' section when something of the moment crops up. What, Stumuzz, do you suggest we should post in the 'Climate Change' section instead? Recipes for apple pie and advice for motherhood?

I would say a large proportion of your 10K posts have a climate change angle to them.

Recipes for apple pie and advice for motherhood are more useful than most of the climate change stuff that gets posted.

Totally_Baffled · Post by **Totally_Baffled** » 23 Oct 2011, 17:58

Right wing/left wing? That's all so last century.

The real issues are whether folk are nice or nasty and whether they understand logic, can use reasoned argument to arrive at rational conclusions, or are away with the fairies.

Oh I get it!

If Biff agrees you are a nice person, if Biff disagrees you are a nasty person!

(Biff is a socialist, ergo leftwing ergo a nice person

)

Adam1 · Post by **Adam1** » 23 Oct 2011, 18:48

I don't post much now because:

1) I don't feel I have anything new to say that I or someone else has not already said (at some point in the past)
2) Lack of time
3) I don't feel the same need to be part of a "peak oil community"; it's been more than six years since I took the whole net energy thing on board.
4) I'm put off by the personal nature of too many of the exchanges. It saps the energy and distracts from the issues.

I still enjoy PS passively.

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 23 Oct 2011, 18:52

Totally_Baffled wrote:
Right wing/left wing? That's all so last century.

The real issues are whether folk are nice or nasty and whether they understand logic, can use reasoned argument to arrive at rational conclusions, or are away with the fairies.
Oh I get it!

If Biff agrees you are a nice person, if Biff disagrees you are a nasty person! (Biff is a socialist, ergo leftwing ergo a nice person )

+1 (unfortunately)

nexus · Post by **nexus** » 23 Oct 2011, 19:44

Stumzz wrote:

I have taken you to task on this before. Please link to the right wing nonsense i have posted. Last time i asked you did not reply.

I haven't got time to trawl back through your posts. I'm happy to concede that I may have not read all your posts, therefore missing all of the compassionate and progressive ones.

careful_eugene · Post by **careful_eugene** » 23 Oct 2011, 20:13

Adam1 wrote:I don't post much now because:

1) I don't feel I have anything new to say that I or someone else has not already said (at some point in the past)
2) Lack of time
3) I don't feel the same need to be part of a "peak oil community"; it's been more than six years since I took the whole net energy thing on board.
4) I'm put off by the personal nature of too many of the exchanges. It saps the energy and distracts from the issues.

I still enjoy PS passively.

Whilst never a big poster anyway the above sums it up for me, oh and the whole RGR thing. I'll try and join in a bit more in future.

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 23 Oct 2011, 21:31

careful_eugene wrote:
Adam1 wrote:I don't post much now because:

1) I don't feel I have anything new to say that I or someone else has not already said (at some point in the past)
2) Lack of time
3) I don't feel the same need to be part of a "peak oil community"; it's been more than six years since I took the whole net energy thing on board.
4) I'm put off by the personal nature of too many of the exchanges. It saps the energy and distracts from the issues.

I still enjoy PS passively.
Whilst never a big poster anyway the above sums it up for me, oh and the whole RGR thing. I'll try and join in a bit more in future.

+1

Ironically, i can see a point when Peak Oil finally becomes mainstream in the general public/elite when this forum would have largely ended as a active forum because its main purpose would have ended.

I am seeing more and more references to Peak Oil. In our local elections, I voted for a candidate who made Peak Oil a key part of his election - surprisingly, perhaps he got a good response from the election meeting which i attended and he did respectfully in the elections (still lost though).

The Sunday Daily Mail today had a article on world population referencing Peak Oil - whatever you think of the DM, it reaches the masses in a way only the News of the World ever did.

All this suggests that knowledge/understanding of PO is starting to migrate into the mainstream. There has recently been a collapse in faith in future economic growth in the West (as portillo mentioned recently) by the governing elites, I suspedt that 2012/13 the same kind of tipping point of awareness will be reached with PO.

This may not be a wholly good thing. Once people understand that the future will - certainly for at least a decade or so - be much tougher than before, it is difficult to see how people will respond.

Hopefully they will react as Biff appears to think is the case, but there may be more negative reactions. We will see soon.

Peter1010 · Post by **Peter1010** » 23 Oct 2011, 21:38

Adam1 wrote:I don't post much now because:

1) I don't feel I have anything new to say that I or someone else has not already said (at some point in the past)
2) Lack of time
3) I don't feel the same need to be part of a "peak oil community"; it's been more than six years since I took the whole net energy thing on board.
4) I'm put off by the personal nature of too many of the exchanges. It saps the energy and distracts from the issues.

I still enjoy PS passively.

Same as me

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 23 Oct 2011, 21:52

Totally_Baffled wrote:
Right wing/left wing? That's all so last century.

The real issues are whether folk are nice or nasty and whether they understand logic, can use reasoned argument to arrive at rational conclusions, or are away with the fairies.
If Biff agrees you are a nice person, if Biff disagrees you are a nasty person! (Biff is a socialist, ergo leftwing ergo a nice person )

Those ergos are just not correct; no logic, reasoned argument or rational conclusion arrived at. I've known some very nice Tories and some pretty nasty socialists.

madibe · Post by **madibe** » 23 Oct 2011, 21:58

I'm with UE on this - the Powerswitch Forum has yet to meet its most important time..... when it is really mainstream this site could be of enormous value to ordinary folk. So perhaps the long standing members have a responsibility to be suportive of new members and lurkers, rather than getting into political bitching.

Just a thought.

mr brightside · Post by **mr brightside** » 23 Oct 2011, 22:01

I've heard that quite a lot of lurkers on forum threads are 'cookies' or something. Threads being monitored by a computer system for some reason, something like that anyway. I used to have time to look at PS, but now i've changed jobs i don't have internet access any more and work longer hours. It needs to be noted that people often have phases, some 'non-forumite' members might drop in regularly for a week or so then not at all for a month. It doesn't mean the forum in question is either stale or exhausted.