bigjim wrote:Joe... there's still some oil around. Peak oil doesn't mean no oil.
Aye, but it does mean no cheap oil. I guess the question of whether it would be cost effective or not could come down to a question of how much energy is needed to make new concrete versus how much is needed to salvage/recycle old concrete. I'm guessing that most heavy plant used for demolition/construction is diesel based so vege oil may become a factor too.
So if we plan it right (I don't think that we will though) we can still get at those large lumps of concrete in your high rise touristy resorts.
LOL - it'll only get planned at all if there's gold in them there tower blocks.
However, if we can't shift the concrete using oil, we'll have to find some other way... slave labour anyone?
There's a good chance that labour will be plentiful and cheap - at least in the short term while we're still producing food...
Dubai are also in the middle of building the largest indoor snow slope in the world!! Think how much energy they will need to keep that thing below freezing!!!
My parents have places in Spain, and I've eventually convinced them to sell, but they've been on the market for yonks now and haven't shifted.
They also bought a place in canada which had been the site of the largest open cast coal mine in the world. It was being phased down because the coal market was falling, and so they were selling off the workers' houses for ridiculously cheap prices. They marketed it as a tourist resort, and the whole town has been bought up, but now they want to reopen the mine, sp they're having to build another town to house the workers. Madness!!
These questions in the history of mankind have never been acceptedly addressed by people in power be they elected or self-appointed.
The usual course of events is to ignore it as long as possible then look the other way when it comes to a head and let the people sort it out themselves, thus keeping their hands clean to rule another day. History speaks for itself.
In the UK like most EU Countries Muslim immigrants are steadily breeding themselves to a majority like the Israel and Cosovo examples. As the oil runs out, the UK, will not be able to self-support even half the present population so the results could be too horrific to imagine. It must not be overlooked the shortage of oil will be Worldwide, with the collapse of the Global Economy. Australia has allready virtually closed her borders tight as will every other country in the near future.
People have to overcome Government Lies and Brainwashing into ignoring blatant facts. There will never be, more jobs, only less, we can import everything we need cheaper than UK machines can make or grow it. This is a vicious circle with less employed, less money to spend which creates more unemployed. Without affordable oil and no income how will your kids survive? Only the very rich will have money and they are certainly not going to give you any of it, neither can you live off the land with 60 million other people.
Ridiculed, can I ridicule your last post? har har har
Seriously, I do see a way that we can create more jobs. If oil's expensive then we'll need to replace the machines with more muscle power, be it human or animal. Agriculture will become a lot more labour intensive.
Other jobs will be created too- we'll have to fix things like TVs and clothes where we would once have replaced them instead.
The question is, can we regain the skills required to become an economy based on maintenance of existing items, rather than replacing them?
