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BritDownUnder wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:07 am ...........
An interesting incident where infected people drove about 2000km across Australia stopping at five towns. Infections unknown as yet.
My first reaction to that is aren't those people stupid. In reality many of that sort of people are not at all stupid. They are however very selfish and often self centred people who don't give a damn about others.
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The BBC is reporting that the Delta variant is 60% more infectious than Alpha, and hospitalisation rate 2.2 times higher in the unvaccinated. Interestingly, of the 42 people to die of Delta variant, 12 have been fully vaccinated. I think this shows that if you are very frail or generate a weak immune response, the vaccine ls less likely to save you than if you are merely old or have co-morbidities. In the most recent sampling 96% of covid cases are Delta.

In the US, latest data has Delta at 6% of cases and a similar growth rate to UK. Vaccination rate down below 1M a day with 172M unvaccinated. The US is going to see a massive spike in the next couple of months.

This ain't over yet, although I am personally reasonably safe for now. I am a little concerned that my older child is showing cold like symptoms, I will try to recommend a quick test.
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PS_RalphW wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:53 pm Interestingly, of the 42 people to die of Delta variant, 12 have been fully vaccinated. I think this shows that if you are very frail or generate a weak immune response, the vaccine ls less likely to save you than if you are merely old or have co-morbidities. In the most recent sampling 96% of covid cases are Delta.
Will Britain's jab drive beat the Indian variant? Study shows 29% of the 42 people who have died after catching the new strain had BOTH vaccinations as cases soar another 40%:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tions.html

The PHE report shows that of those 42 people to have died with the Indian variant, 12 were fully vaccinated, seven had received their first dose more than 21 days before and 23 were unvaccinated. It also has a 64% increased risk of household transmission compared to the Kent variant.

Looks to me like we're in for another wave, regardless of the current vaccine programme....
Wonder if Boris regrets not stopping flights from India yet ?
Or if he thinks the £37 BILLION spent on Test and Trace is working ??
Still, at least Nut Nuts and the bairn had a nice time in Cornwall at the G7....
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China has fallen off the radar of covid infections, but they are now struggling to keep the delta variant out in port cities, and local lockdowns are impacting on international trade again. Chinese vaccination rates are low. Most of their vaccines have been exported. Rates are also rising again in Brazil.

Recent record death figures in India are mostly caused by the famously slow Indian beaurocracy finally catching up just a little bit with recent history.
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Infection numbers in the UK have fallen for 3 days now, admittedly over a weekend so could be a weekly artifact. Numbers are levelling off in the hotspots, although stll rising rapidly in more rural areas. We could be seeing the low vaccine areas approaching herd immunity at least at the current level of lockdown. Too early to be sure.

The US looks to be a bigger problem. Delta variant is up to 10% of cases, and infection numbers are leveling off at 15,000 a day, but vaccination rates are stagnating, and are split very deeply on political lines, with opinion polls showing Republican takeup 25% lower than Democrat - although polls are not all reliable. Not all the damage of the Trump term have yet been seen.
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Covid: Brazil hits 500,000 deaths amid 'critical' situation:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-57541794
The country has reported, on average, 70,000 cases and 2,000 deaths daily in the past week. Most of the new infections and deaths were among people aged 20-59, Fiocruz said, warning that the start of winter in the southern hemisphere, next week, could result in more infections.
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UK infection numbers have resumed an upward path, but well short of the 10 day doubling rate seen earlier. A new sub-variant dubbed Delta-plus which includes a key mutation in the spike protein also found in the Beta variant has now reached 44 identified cases in the UK. India has declared it a variant of concern, but the numbers are currently too low to assess transmissibility or virulence.

Number of UK patients on ventilators has increased by 40% in the last week to over 200. I guess that this is the precursor to the rising death toll from the third wave. Numbers are still low for now.

The clamour in the media for the full release from all lockdown measures is becoming deafening.
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PS_RalphW wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:02 pm .................
The clamour in the media for the full release from all lockdown measures is becoming deafening.
The money men are obviously getting worried and piling up the pressure.
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The health impacts of cases and hospitalisations is less that last year, however every new case provides an opportunity for mutation. If we play this game long enough a strain will emerge to defeat the vaccines.
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clv101 wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:39 pm The health impacts of cases and hospitalisations is less that last year, however every new case provides an opportunity for mutation. If we play this game long enough a strain will emerge to defeat the vaccines.
+1, we're now on to the Delta plus variant - no data available as yet whether it's more infectious or leads to more severe disease or whether it can defeat current vaccines.....

This is a GLOBAL problem, so vaccines need to be available GLOBALLY.
Rich countries (like us) need to play their part in this - an excellent argument for maintaining our 0.7% Foreign Aid budget....
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