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vtsnowedin wrote:
Blue Peter wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:after two world wars the second of which was brought about by British errors of greed after WWI.
What do you mean by this?


Peter.
If you will look up a bit of history you will find that the war reparations imposed on Germany after WWI impoverished the German people and created the discontent that allowed Hitler to rise to power.
It is more complicated then that of course but that is the short answer.
Having helped me elder son do the Treaty of Versailles and League of Nations this term, I know this one. It was the French who were really vindictive at the ToV, Lloyd George tried to balance the popular UK desire for revenge with a desire not to hurt Germany too much (mainly for economic reasons). Of course, he wasn't as against reparations as much as Woodrow Wilson, but he was a lot less vindictive than Clemenceau - he was reported as feeling that Versailles had gone as well as could be expected given he was between Jesus (Wilson) and Napoleon Bonaparte (Clemenceau)!


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vt get's it almost right, corrected by BP.
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biffvernon wrote:vt get's it almost right, corrected by BP.
While BP may have added on more layers of nuance I don't think he contradicted or corrected anything I said.
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vtsnowedin wrote:
biffvernon wrote:vt get's it almost right, corrected by BP.
While BP may have added on more layers of nuance I don't think he contradicted or corrected anything I said.
I think the point I wanted to make was that it wasn't UK greed, more French desire for revenge and to eliminate Germany as a significant force.

Clearly the UK was involved in the final draft of the Treaty of Versailles, but it would probably have been worse if the UK wasn't, as I understand things,


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At any rate it was a failure that cost us all dearly just a generation later.
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vtsnowedin wrote:At any rate it was a failure that cost us all dearly just a generation later.
Agreed,


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