Is Sushil Yadav right?

[RenewableCandy]

S-y has a very good point, but in all my life I've never read/heard of a good point put so, execrably, badly.

I find the "mind" bit particularly interesting: it's far easier to tell a wrecked environment from a functioning one, than the same is to do with minds. But I offer as a possible starting-point the following:

There are many people in the "first" world whose vocabulary in their own language is less than a thousand words (you need about 2000 to be able to read a newspaper). On the other hand, someone (appropriately named Bridge) compiled a dictionary of the everyday words used by Tierra-del-Fuegans, before they got wiped off the map. It came to more words than there are in Shakespeare's plays! And bear in mind the lower number of nouns (crankshaft, wool, factory...) they'd have needed. It implies to me that they had time to develop an understanding of human nature and relationships that we either lacked to start with, or have lost. If we've lost it, then industrialisation might be to blame.

Meanwhile, there is a lot of evidence that Aussie Aborigines were farming fish before anybody else came, and of course that they mainly lived on the coasts: our mental image of them as desert people comes from their having been driven there by white people.

[emordnilap]

Just watched Somewhere in New Mexico (Before the End of Time).

Guy McPherson's message is the same as Sushil_Yadav's, just less repetitive. Couple this with Greenland living up to its name and we're fecked.

Certainly Ireland, traditionally the land of mild sunshine and frequent showers, is experiencing climate change; the past few years have been just cloudy most of the time. This year, long hot dry spells interspersed with monsoon-like conditions, a bit like Poland.

[BritDownUnder]

Meanwhile, there is a lot of evidence that Aussie Aborigines were farming fish before anybody else came, and of course that they mainly lived on the coasts: our mental image of them as desert people comes from their having been driven there by white people.

The Brewarrina Fish traps. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewarrina ... outh_Wales
Thought to be the oldest human built structures. About 40,000 years old.
Nowhere near the coast but what you have said is thought to be true that most aboriginals lived near the coast.

[biffvernon]

Wow, those fish traps are interesting.

[emordnilap]

BTW, this thread is intimately connected with this one. It's well worth reading the pdf Atman linked to; it's not long.