SUVs not EVs

Our transport is heavily oil-based. What are the alternatives?

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I think the UK calls SUVs what America might call a modern station wagon.
Is that last one a "Crossover"?
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This is a "high end" SUV for polo players, golfers and Chelsea residents. A Disco is for farmers.

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Wow all this SUV porn is getting me just so excited!

I can get it for real now that all the splendidly gleaming top end beemers, audis, volvos, rovers etc are arriving up for St Paddy's day weekend. Now is also the time of year the local agricultural community get a chance to put some manners on them with the aid of slurry tankers being drawn by very slowly moving tractors along the narrow roads. The splendid drivers of these splendid vehicles all seem to have a very low frustration threshold ands prone to red faces and high blood pressure.

Now a tractor and a link box, you really are talking about a utility vehicle there!
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Well I have three SUVs. The first is straight utility, a John Deere 5045E four wheel drive tractor. Plowed the road with it today and moved some wood in. The second is a sport vehicle, a Nissan frontier pickup and the sport I use it for is hunting and fishing trips plus wandering over to my buddies man cave to play darts. The last is the wife's Toyota Rave four, she mostly just commutes the nine miles to work with it and back but in this Chelsea's roads and weather that can be quite sporting at times. She managed to put the old Ford explorer she had before that on it's side even though she had driven a sixty passenger bus full of school kids down the same road an hour earlier.
They all earn their keep and do jobs a standard sedan could not do so are worth the extra operating cost. Notice there isn't a Beamer or Volvo in the mix.
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:lol: :lol: Call this a SUV? :ROTFLMAO:
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I'm not sure if it's still the case but at one time a 4x4 such as a land rover was classified as a duel purpose vehicle . The main benefit of that classification was that it could operate with a trailer at weights over 3.5 ton without the need for a tachograph.
Similarly I'm lead to believe there are ( or were , I'm not up to speed with current regs) tax benefits with having a 4x4 pickup as a company car hence we see quite a few of the Mitsubishi/Nissan type of things in preference to bog standard salons.
Personally I drive a transit , unmarked , tatty and not looking as good as it could . A van because I use it for work and scruffy so as to try not to attract the attention of those who are currently targeting vans for their contents.
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woodburner wrote::lol: :lol: Call this a SUV? :ROTFLMAO:
Why yes because I get a lot of utility out of it. Mine has knobby front tires, a loader and I have snowplow and grapple attachments for the loader.
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Tax law has just changed here and people are still figuring out what it means for their small business. A heavy enough van , over 6000 lbs curb weight can be bought for your business and the full cost written off in the first year. It will become a matter of consulting you tax accountant to find out how much equipment you have to buy to not pay any taxes.
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Talking of tax and vehicles , in the UK there are two ways to approach it. One is to claim 45p mile as expenditure up to a limit of 10,000 miles per annum and the other is to put in every bill , for fuel , maintenance, etc , that the vehicle accrues in that year. On another forum I use there was recently just such a discussion as to which approach is best. Personally I use the 45p per mile method as it's more effective for me and only do around 5000 a year.
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Lurkalot wrote:Talking of tax and vehicles , in the UK there are two ways to approach it. One is to claim 45p mile as expenditure up to a limit of 10,000 miles per annum and the other is to put in every bill , for fuel , maintenance, etc , that the vehicle accrues in that year. On another forum I use there was recently just such a discussion as to which approach is best. Personally I use the 45p per mile method as it's more effective for me and only do around 5000 a year.
We could go both ways here but I don't know if that changed with the new tax law. I always took the per mile as the book keeping was easier and they had no way to challenge your figures as long as you vehicle gained more miles on it then you charged.
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