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vtsnowedin wrote:
Shortfall wrote: Those who live on the other side of the pond are always blind to the complexities of world politics. :roll:

I suppose it's because most Americans haven't travelled - except in times of war. :wink:
I wonder who said that first? Nevil Chamberlain perhaps?
Wassup VTS, those goddam pesky Rooskies gittin' to y'all again? :D
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30560941
Russia says it will not "cave in" to pressure, following a fresh set of US, EU and Canadian sanctions over the conflict in Ukraine.

A spokesman said Moscow regretted "that the West is yet again displaying a complete lack of interest" in resolving the crisis in south-east Ukraine.

Russia was developing "retaliatory measures", the spokesman said.
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http://rt.com/news/216291-luxury-cars-russia-crisis/
Porsches sold out: Luxury cars go like hotcakes in Russia amid ruble plunge
Classier than a handcart I suppose. :wink:
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http://btv24.co.uk/?p=9129
John Pilger: Real possibility of nuclear war – Ukraine crisis could start World War 3
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Shortfall wrote: Wassup VTS, those goddam pesky Rooskies gittin' to y'all again? :D
Wrong part of the country. American slang is quite local and complicated. A bit like world politics. If it was gittin to Y'all you would be from Missouri. A frustrated native Vermonter might say " Geesum crow that ain't going to happen!"
I was merely pointing out the absurdity of the average Brit arrogantly asserting that they had a firmer grasp of the world situation then the average American has.
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vtsnowedin wrote:
Shortfall wrote: Wassup VTS, those goddam pesky Rooskies gittin' to y'all again? :D
Wrong part of the country. American slang is quite local and complicated. A bit like world politics. If it was gittin to Y'all you would be from Missouri. A frustrated native Vermonter might say " Geesum crow that ain't going to happen!"
I was merely pointing out the absurdity of the average Brit arrogantly asserting that they had a firmer grasp of the world situation then the average American has.
I guess it was only a matter of time before you deployed the active denial system. :wink: :)
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vtsnowedin wrote:
Shortfall wrote: Wassup VTS, those goddam pesky Rooskies gittin' to y'all again? :D
Wrong part of the country. American slang is quite local and complicated. A bit like world politics. If it was gittin to Y'all you would be from Missouri. A frustrated native Vermonter might say " Geesum crow that ain't going to happen!"
I was merely pointing out the absurdity of the average Brit arrogantly asserting that they had a firmer grasp of the world situation then the average American has.
It's true to say the average Brit is pretty ignorant of world events. However, if the Yank MSM and the shit it gets away with pumping out is anything to go by, I think it's reasonably uncontentious to assume your average American is even more ignorant.
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stevecook172001 wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
Shortfall wrote: Wassup VTS, those goddam pesky Rooskies gittin' to y'all again? :D
Wrong part of the country. American slang is quite local and complicated. A bit like world politics. If it was gittin to Y'all you would be from Missouri. A frustrated native Vermonter might say " Geesum crow that ain't going to happen!"
I was merely pointing out the absurdity of the average Brit arrogantly asserting that they had a firmer grasp of the world situation then the average American has.
It's true to say the average Brit is pretty ignorant of world events. However, if the Yank MSM and the shit it gets away with pumping out is anything to go by, I think it's reasonably uncontentious to assume your average American is even more ignorant.
Considering some of the media you Brits consume at levels that make them profitable I would have to contend that to the bitter end. :twisted:
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Shortfall wrote: I guess it was only a matter of time before you deployed the active denial system. :wink: :)
The question is which is both more effective and humane. An ADS or tear gas, rubber bullets and water cannon?
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clv101 wrote:
In my opinion Europe has made the strategic mistake of the century in siding with the US rather than Russia.
Siding with the US meant that we had Soviet nukes pointed at us , siding with Russia would have meant that we would have had American nukes pointed at us. Perhaps comes down to which side would have been more likely to start WW3 and choosing sides accordingly?
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The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is injecting as much as 30 billion roubles (around $517m), into Trust Bank to save it from bankruptcy, and putting it under direct supervision.
Guardian

http://www.theguardian.com/business/liv ... isher-live

Oil price drifting down again.

Could a Russian financial collapse spread to the other major markets?
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Lurkalot wrote:
clv101 wrote:
In my opinion Europe has made the strategic mistake of the century in siding with the US rather than Russia.
Siding with the US meant that we had Soviet nukes pointed at us , siding with Russia would have meant that we would have had American nukes pointed at us. Perhaps comes down to which side would have been more likely to start WW3 and choosing sides accordingly?
By and large, those nations without nukes had none pointing at them.
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biffvernon wrote:
Lurkalot wrote:
clv101 wrote:
In my opinion Europe has made the strategic mistake of the century in siding with the US rather than Russia.
Siding with the US meant that we had Soviet nukes pointed at us , siding with Russia would have meant that we would have had American nukes pointed at us. Perhaps comes down to which side would have been more likely to start WW3 and choosing sides accordingly?
By and large, those nations without nukes had none pointing at them.
Hang on a minute. The only reason they did not have nukes pointing at them is because they were not in the competition for whatever resource the nuke powers were prepared to fight over. If they had been, they would have been subjects of attention just the same, nukes or no nukes. Indeed, one might argue that those powers that held the nukes, given that they were in that game, were only not invaded, because of their nukes. Or have you forgotten, conveniently, about the innumerable countries around the world, who did not have nukes, but who nevertheless were in possession of resources that the bigger powers coveted, and the number of times they have been invaded, had puppet governments levered into place and generally been f***ed over left, right and centre.

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biffvernon wrote:
Lurkalot wrote:
clv101 wrote:
In my opinion Europe has made the strategic mistake of the century in siding with the US rather than Russia.
Siding with the US meant that we had Soviet nukes pointed at us , siding with Russia would have meant that we would have had American nukes pointed at us. Perhaps comes down to which side would have been more likely to start WW3 and choosing sides accordingly?
By and large, those nations without nukes had none pointing at them.
Only those countries that didn't have US military bases stationed on their soil you mean
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Paul Craig Roberts: Financial Market Manipulation is the New Trend: Can it Continue?
Paul Craig Roberts wrote:The greatest harm that is being done to the Russian economy is not due to sanctions and the US attack on the ruble. The greatest harm is being done by Russia’s neoliberal economists.

Neoliberal economics is not merely incorrect. It is an ideology that fosters US economic imperialism. By following neoliberal prescriptions, Russian economists are helping Washington’s attack on the Russian economy.

Apparently, Putin has been sold, along with his internal enemies, the Atlanticist integrationists, on “free trade globalism.” Globalism destroys the sovereignty of every country except the world reserve currency country that controls the system.

As Michael Hudson has shown, neoliberal economics is “junk economics.” But it is also a tool of American financial imperialism, and this makes neoliberal Russian economists tools of American imperialism.
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