US to arm Syrian rebels

[vtsnowedin]

There is nothing exceptional about the USA...

Yes there is. Only in the US could this be considered a sane way of looking at things (see "George ought to help.")

http://www.libertyclassroom.com/you-sig ... -contract/

Basically, the person who has created this video (and used an English voice-over to make it seem a little less extreme/insane) is very upset that public money is used to educate the children of poor people. He actually wants to return to a world where the children of the poor end up illiterate because he thinks it is an appalling infringement of his own rights and freedoms that he be asked to pay taxes to pay for stuff like this. It is truly backwards, in every sense of that word, and nowhere else in the western world do people actually believe stuff like this.

You don't suppose the average American is that far right do you? With 320 million people we have all types. I suspect I could poke around a little and find something as bad on both right and left in the UK.

[UndercoverElephant]

There is nothing exceptional about the USA...

Yes there is. Only in the US could this be considered a sane way of looking at things (see "George ought to help.")

http://www.libertyclassroom.com/you-sig ... -contract/

Basically, the person who has created this video (and used an English voice-over to make it seem a little less extreme/insane) is very upset that public money is used to educate the children of poor people. He actually wants to return to a world where the children of the poor end up illiterate because he thinks it is an appalling infringement of his own rights and freedoms that he be asked to pay taxes to pay for stuff like this. It is truly backwards, in every sense of that word, and nowhere else in the western world do people actually believe stuff like this.

You don't suppose the average American is that far right do you? With 320 million people we have all types. I suspect I could poke around a little and find something as bad on both right and left in the UK.

I think you don't get it VT. Yep, I think there's plenty of people that far right wing in the US, and you can search until the cows come home but will not find views like these expressed AT ALL in Europe.

[woodburner]

I think you don't get it VT. Yep, I think there's plenty of people that far right wing in the US, and you can search until the cows come home but will not find views like these expressed AT ALL in Europe.

Hmmm...........I think you are looking the wrong place then.

[biffvernon]

Syria:



or as someone said

Straight out of the post-apocalyptic, dystopian textbook that image.

[JohnB]

Syria:



or as someone said

Straight out of the post-apocalyptic, dystopian textbook that image.

Profit for the arms industry, followed by profit for construction, banking, energy.......

[JavaScriptDonkey]

Not quite.

The parallel is that the state extracts money with menaces from its citizens based on a superiority of force.

George isn't arguing against other people helping to educate Oliver's children, he simply wants the state to ask and accept the answer 'no'.

Personally I support minimum taxation for the essentials of modern society but we all have our sticking points.

I doubt Biff would much like a 25% property value tax levied tomorrow in order to pay to build new nuclear power stations.

The 'educate the children of the poor' thing is probably a poor choice of an example.

[UndercoverElephant]

I think you don't get it VT. Yep, I think there's plenty of people that far right wing in the US, and you can search until the cows come home but will not find views like these expressed AT ALL in Europe.

Hmmm...........I think you are looking the wrong place then.

Troll.

[biffvernon]

I doubt Biff would much like a 25% property value tax levied tomorrow in order to pay to build new nuclear power stations.

There's two parts to that. I wouldn't want any of anybody's money spent on new nuclear, and property tax, while it may have a social engineering value in getting money of some kinds of wealthy people, is not a very useful tax as it tends to be a one-off. Income tax, (including tax on rental income which is a kind of property tax but cleverer), sales taxes and resource taxes, are all more sensible as they can go on year after year.

[vtsnowedin]

[I think you don't get it VT. Yep, I think there's plenty of people that far right wing in the US, and you can search until the cows come home but will not find views like these expressed AT ALL in Europe.

Perhaps one thing you don't understand is the reality of "public schools" (American usage) in the south. After court ordered desegregation of the public schools the vast majority of whites took their children out of them and sent them to privately paid for schools, many with a church affiliation. The result has been public schools that are almost exclusively black and two generations of white taxpayers that resent having to pay for public schools they would not dare to send their children to while paying the full cost of their own children’s education out of pocket.
Not to say that it is right just that it is the current reality there.

[biffvernon]

Hmmm... didn't I suggest some while ago that the USA was a deeply racially divided and racist nation?

[vtsnowedin]

Hmmm... didn't I suggest some while ago that the USA was a deeply racially divided and racist nation?

As is the UK

[woodburner]

I think you don't get it VT. Yep, I think there's plenty of people that far right wing in the US, and you can search until the cows come home but will not find views like these expressed AT ALL in Europe.

Hmmm...........I think you are looking the wrong place then.

Troll.

Not wanting to see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I would think it's entirely possible that extremists in Europe hold similar views. Instead of your petulant put down, maybe you should widen your horizons.

[UndercoverElephant]

Hmmm...........I think you are looking the wrong place then.

Troll.

Not wanting to see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I would think it's entirely possible that extremists in Europe hold similar views. Instead of your petulant put down, maybe you should widen your horizons.

Troll.

[UndercoverElephant]

[I think you don't get it VT. Yep, I think there's plenty of people that far right wing in the US, and you can search until the cows come home but will not find views like these expressed AT ALL in Europe.

Perhaps one thing you don't understand is the reality of "public schools" (American usage) in the south. After court ordered desegregation of the public schools the vast majority of whites took their children out of them and sent them to privately paid for schools, many with a church affiliation. The result has been public schools that are almost exclusively black and two generations of white taxpayers that resent having to pay for public schools they would not dare to send their children to while paying the full cost of their own children’s education out of pocket.
Not to say that it is right just that it is the current reality there.

Well, that doesn't happen in Europe either.

[UndercoverElephant]

Hmmm... didn't I suggest some while ago that the USA was a deeply racially divided and racist nation?

As is the UK

Not like the US it isn't, and never was.