More big energy price increases

[snow hope]

Gas and electricity price increase of up to 29% by E.On and SSE

This winter is going to be the first really tough winter due to PO.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7534796.stm

[RenewableCandy]

ScottishPower up by 34% rom 1st September...ouch!

3 more pallets have appeared in our street. Memo to self...

[JohnB]

Apparently Calor Gas cylinders are going up yet again on 1st September too. Bad news for people who use them for heating or cooking, and really bad if you live in a van .

[snow hope]

TS is HTF and this winter is going to start getting tough. I am convinced we are entering the start of the downslope and an awful lot of people are going to suffer this winter in the UK. Let's just hope it is another mild one (I can't believe I just said that as I really enjoy seasonal weather) for all our sakes.

[leroy]

I shut off the hot water along with the CH last spring as an experiment and have found the whole experience to be OK. I boil water for tea and shaving in the morning with my Kelly Kettle which has required the gathering of some twigs at the allotment and a few sheets of FT every week but little else. The thing I hate is cold showers, and I have been visiting the gym every day in order to benefit from their hot ones, which has proved a great incentive.

Being cold all winter is another matter. I spent a winter living in a bedsit up north without CH and despite it being quite a mild winter the whole thing just gets you down after a few weeks, and may contributed to getting ill more often for those months. Just bought a load of thermal vests and longjohns from the army surplus store - really makes a massive difference that stuff.

[JohnB]

Just bought a load of thermal vests and longjohns from the army surplus store - really makes a massive difference that stuff.

It didn't work for me last winter. Every time I wore mine I got too hot, and that's living in a not particularly well insulated and draught proofed van!

[RGR]

This winter is going to be the first really tough winter due to PO.

[RenewableCandy]

This winter is going to be the first really tough winter due to PO.

Not as tough as the post peak winter in 1981. THAT was a tough one!

Actually it was. Snow on Brighton beach, just 200 yards down the road from my rented hovel with no heating (except a stove that didn't work)...and no I'm not making this up

There was a peak in "energy used per person" in 1979 I believe...but yes that was pretty un-noticeable here in the UK.

[RGR]

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[grinu]

I'm with you Snow, althoughnext year will be when it gets real bad, [notwithstanding previous peaks Mr Twister].

[Vortex]

Well. if that darling Darling is right then we are only just entering a period of doomitude due to rising oil prices, rising food prices and the credit crunch ... as he reminded us about six times in nine minutes!

I'm sure Mr Twister will be fine 'tho in his well paid safe job pontificating about how "'we've never had it so good"

[RenewableCandy]

Hey RGR there really was sno on Brighton beach in 1981, but no igloos, and I've no pictures to prove it. There was also iirc a massive recession in 1979, in our case prompting a change of government. It may have been more keenly felt in poorer countries than ours, you know like in that "rest of the world" place .

Meanwhile Darling hurls brick through the country's living-room window

The problem for Mr Darling is there's so little money to do the alleviatig with, that his options for making a real difference to people's pockets in these straitened times are severely limeited

[RGR]

There was also iirc a massive recession in 1979, in our case prompting a change of government. It may have been more keenly felt in poorer countries than ours, you know like in that "rest of the world" place .

[bigjim]

My house is on one of those irritating prepayment electricity meters. I've been there two weeks now and so far I've managed to use £6.50 in leccy- no gas is supplied to the house.

Is that good?

[Vortex]

My house is on one of those irritating prepayment electricity meters. I've been there two weeks now and so far I've managed to use £6.50 in leccy- no gas is supplied to the house.

Is that good?

Stornoway?

Those electrons have to travel over hill and dale to reach you ... and paddle in the water too ... so no wonder they are expensive!