Conservative party/opposition watch

[Stumuz2]

If I'd had a dying relative at the time, I'd be very pissed off.

Dying relative died of a man made Chinese virus, not of cake.

This isn't just some Westminster or media 'noise', [/quote]

Yes it is.

As you say, we have some serious shit coming down the line and BoJo aint the man to deal with it...

In your opinion which you are entitled to.But is it up to the press to drive out a democratically elected PM? Where is their mandate? Who voted for the Journo's?

[dustiswhatweare]

If I'd had a dying relative at the time, I'd be very pissed off.

Dying relative died of a man made Chinese virus, not of cake.

This isn't just some Westminster or media 'noise',

Yes it is.

As you say, we have some serious shit coming down the line and BoJo aint the man to deal with it...

In your opinion which you are entitled to.But is it up to the press to drive out a democratically elected PM? Where is their mandate? Who voted for the Journo's?
[/quote]

Wow. Just wow. We have a pm who lies, who cheats, who obfuscates. There is nothing low enough for him. To make excuses for this man is to be complicit in dreadful behaviour. This isn't about party politics, it isn't about the press. This is about a man that simply should not be anywhere near power. I have been in a room with this man prior to him becoming pm, the day after Gove knifed him in the back as it so happens. He came across as a super shifty type, the one that won't look you in the eye.
This is not a man I would put in charge of anything, would not recommend as any kind of a role model, have respect for.
Nor has he ever made much effort to hide his utter unfitness for any kind of office.

What is the agenda of anyone, anyone at all, that would support such a shameless, self interested shambles of a man?

[UndercoverElephant]

When have the recent batch of politicians ever had integrity.

Can you seriously imagine Theresa May holding illegal lockdown parties in Downing Street?

All politicians lie, and a lot of them have their snouts in the trough. The difference with Johnson is that he takes it to a whole new level, and that he is also Prime Minister. His own headmaster wrote that Johnson believes he is a unique exception, and that the rules that apply to others simply do not apply to him. He has also been sacked from three different jobs for lying. He's just stood at the dispatch box and accused Kier Starmer of having a role in failing to prosecute Jimmy Savile, when it has already been well established that Starmer had nothing to do with that, and absolutely nobody in his party has been willing defend those remarks. None of this is remotely normal, even by the standards of modern british politics. The only reason he became PM in the first place is because Cameron took a reckless gamble on an EU referendum, lost it, and the tories then replaced him with a remainer to handle brexit, and she totally f***ed it up. He should never have been PM in the first place.

[clv101]

To make excuses for this man is to be complicit in dreadful behaviour.

Indeed, and why his staff are abandoning him and letters of no confidence are accumulating. His downfall is inevitable, drawing it out for months is to no one's benefit.

[adam2]

Boris is IMHO doomed UNLESS some exceptional event occurs, with which he copes admirably. All will then be forgiven/forgotten.

A war or some major disaster could save him, but firstly a war or major disaster is not that likely to occur in time, and even if DOES there is no guarantee that Boris and his government will cope admirably with any such event.

[clv101]

He's had exceptional events, Brexit and Covid, both have simply highlighted his incompetence. Third time lucky?

[Stumuz2]

Wow. Just wow. We have a pm who lies, who cheats, who obfuscates. There is nothing low enough for him. To make excuses for this man is to be complicit in dreadful behaviour.

This is your view of the PM, other views devoid of personal animus are available, if you consider democracy as complicit in his behaviour then yes, I’m complicit.

This isn't about party politics, it isn't about the press. This is about a man that simply should not be anywhere near power.

Again, your total disregard for democracy is telling. The people via the well-established electoral system we have, made him PM. Your attitude would sit well in a banana republic where El predente could be overthrown at anytime.

I have been in a room with this man prior to him becoming pm, the day after Gove knifed him in the back as it so happens. He came across as a super shifty type, the one that won't look you in the eye.

Personal animus, congratulations. Thank goodness we have a superior way of choosing outr leaders. Don’t vote for X, he’s a bit shifty is not a party manifesto in the making.

This is not a man I would put in charge of anything, would not recommend as any kind of a role model, have respect for.
Nor has he ever made much effort to hide his utter unfitness for any kind of office.

A big steaming heap of animus.

What is the agenda of anyone, anyone at all, that would support such a shameless, self interested shambles of a man?

Quite simple. We are one of a few countries in the world with a genuine democratic system of government. In our system we vote in a government and we as a society transfer all the levers of power, to the new, democratically elected government.

There are plenty of people in Russia, who have your levels subjective hatred of the PM, towards Putin. Do you think they could vote Putin out? With rigged elections, knobbled constitutional courts, bully thugs attending political meetings.
We have the gold standard of free and fair elections, the gold standard in democracy.
Democracy is the agenda. Geddit?

[Stumuz2]

He should never have been PM in the first place.

So annoying democracy.

[Stumuz2]

Indeed, and why his staff are abandoning him and letters of no confidence are accumulating. His downfall is inevitable, drawing it out for months is to no one's benefit.

Except it’s anti-democratic. If he is replaced in a coup, then they will be stealing his 80 seat super majority. Democracy thieves.

[Stumuz2]

He's had exceptional events, Brexit and Covid, both have simply highlighted his incompetence. Third time lucky?

Partially agree on Brexit, looks like we are getting a Brino which no one voted for.
As for Covid I'm happy with the Vaccine development and rollout, The lockdowns were a mistake, but then most countries made the same mistake.

[dustiswhatweare]

Nadine, is that you?

[Potemkin Villager]

Even to damaged folk who desperately crave being in the thick of it No 10 must be
a truly horrible toxic work environment. Now it must be getting like
last days in the Berlin bunker. I'm surprised the cat hasn't left too.

[Potemkin Villager]

Nadine, is that you?

[Mark]

This isn't just some Westminster or media 'noise',

Yes it is.
[/quote]

Dominic Cummings is having his fun, but it runs WAY deeper than that.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer ?

[clv101]

Here's a messy story, blue on blue: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... lls-tories