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The latest draft is now available: http://unfccc.int/documentation/documen ... =600006741

It has certainly moved forward. This paragraph seems to owe something to the Anderson Bows paper linked to at the top of this thread.
Acknowledging that there is a gap between the aggregate level of reduction in emissions of greenhouse gases to be achieved through global mitigation efforts and the reduction needed as part of the global effort to achieve the range indicated in the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change,
It will be nice to see the US Senate accepting that "There is a gap."
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Good link, thanks Biff.
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Thanks nexus, have another:

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Tweets:

#COP17 President's Informal stocktaking session running 25 minutes late and all COP plenaries are postponed until tomoro.

RT @BBCRBlack: Heard in corridor #cop17 - "They are supposed to be saving the planet and they can't even run a meeting"

if you feel the need to get really drunk when (if) #COP17 ever finishes, don't ask the organisers to help you find a brewery

Ah, plenery starting now 47 minutes late:
http://unfccc4.meta-fusion.com/kongress ... eme=unfccc
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biffvernon wrote:Watch this woman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko3e6G_7GY4
Red hot.
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biffvernon wrote:

Ah, plenery starting now 47 minutes late:
http://unfccc4.meta-fusion.com/kongress ... eme=unfccc
Plenery ended after a few minutes of fine words and generalised platitudes from the President and then they went off for more work! It's not over yet.
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emordnilap wrote:
biffvernon wrote:Watch this woman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko3e6G_7GY4
Red hot.
She's living up to my strapline :D
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A piece from Naomi Klein.
Larry Bell wrote:climate change “has little to do with the state of the environment and much to do with shackling capitalism and transforming the American way of life in the interests of global wealth redistribution.
Actually, I wish.
Responding to climate change requires that we break every rule in the free-market playbook and that we do so with great urgency.

We will need to rebuild the public sphere, reverse privatizations, relocalize large parts of economies, scale back overconsumption, bring back long-term planning, heavily regulate and tax corporations, maybe even nationalize some of them, cut military spending and recognize our debts to the global South.

Of course, none of this has a hope in hell of happening unless it is accompanied by a massive, broad-based effort to radically reduce the influence that corporations have over the political process.

That means, at a minimum, publicly funded elections and stripping corporations of their status as “people” under the law.
Cool. Let's go for it.
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