Open Question to Powerswitchers From RGR. Input requested.

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 29 Dec 2010, 21:14

Do you believe we have passed the era of easily affordable oil ? Or do you think prices will come back down to a lower average level ?

What is your expert prediction ? not in 50 pages, but a general trend if you can, I'm keen to see this different future.

Mean Mr Mustard · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard** » 29 Dec 2010, 22:35

Catweazle wrote:Do you believe we have passed the era of easily affordable oil ? Or do you think prices will come back down to a lower average level ?

What is your expert prediction ? not in 50 pages, but a general trend if you can, I'm keen to see this different future.

Is this the special thread reserved for Troll feeding?

Mean Mr Mustard · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard** » 30 Dec 2010, 10:11

RGR wrote: We're having a troll fest next December. Come join us. I'll buy lunch.

http://www.20wpc.com/

RGR wrote:...as far as I'm concerned, it should cost more immediately, to encourage people to stop wasting it on something as ridiculous as burning it in their cars.

Or flying from Denver to Doha and back - just for an oil conference...

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 30 Dec 2010, 14:17

Mean Mr Mustard wrote:Or flying from Denver to Doha and back - just for an oil conference...

That's quite logical for an oil conference. It's just keeping demand up.

What is not acceptable is the news I've just received from an Australian acquaintance, who is an educator in the Environment, that, this year, he's flown to a conference in Malaysia, to another in New Zealand, had a holiday in Estonia and Norway and another in Northern Australia!

Perhaps we should be going back to basics and teaching that in Environmental terms, 2+2=4.

Mean Mr Mustard · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard** » 16 Jan 2011, 09:28

Actually, it's the superior egotistic tone which is unwelcome. A pity really, as RGR actually agrees there will be a peak - just a question of timing.

Which decade is it gonna be, RGR? We lesser intellects want to know.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 16 Jan 2011, 16:48

Our problems won't come with Peak Oil or Climate Change but when China and India try to double their consumption of all resources in the next seven years to fuel their 10% growth rate. The excess of demand over supply for many resources will break the economic system and a few political ones. Tunisia is just the start.

RGR · Post by **RGR** » 16 Jan 2011, 19:25

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Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 16 Jan 2011, 22:04

Isolationism still rules! OK!

RGR · Post by **RGR** » 17 Jan 2011, 17:33

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AndySir · Post by **AndySir** » 17 Jan 2011, 17:45

How trivial a post can I make in this thread and still get a response from RGR?

the mad cyclist · Post by **the mad cyclist** » 17 Jan 2011, 17:46

RGR wrote:What happens if China decides to ban coal fired power plants tomorrow and only build nukes? What happens if they ban ICE powered transport, unless its powered by natural gas? Same with India?

I’ll bake a cake while I wait for it to happen.

RGR · Post by **RGR** » 17 Jan 2011, 17:53

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the mad cyclist · Post by **the mad cyclist** » 17 Jan 2011, 19:30

RGR wrote:
What part of a different future for China is so scary for people?

Changing technologies don’t scare me, they’ve paid my wages. Plenty in the West does scare me; Q.E., bankrupt nations bailing out other bankrupt nations, high oil prices suppressing growth so we can’t get out of this mess, our economies need for exponential growth….

RGR · Post by **RGR** » 17 Jan 2011, 22:34

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the mad cyclist · Post by **the mad cyclist** » 18 Jan 2011, 08:09

RGR wrote: And no, you can't argue a "need" for exponential growth unless you examine some cheery picked timeframe. Economic cycles involve both growth and contraction, "growth" is only a part of that system.

Certainly our economies might LIKE exponential growth, but that doesn't make it any more possible and is contradicted by known business cycles anyway.

Are you saying that economies can function without any growth?