Diplomatic WikiLeaks

[caspian]

He's one of the guys that decides the direction. As mentioned. One of the people you claim not to believe exist, part of the Wikileaks 'story' you don't believe in.

Woodpecker, you're on a hiding to nothing trying to convince MacG of anything. As with the "conspiracy" of global warming, he's made his mind up and that's that.

[Andy Hunt]

^^

This.

[MacG]

He's one of the guys that decides the direction. As mentioned. One of the people you claim not to believe exist, part of the Wikileaks 'story' you don't believe in.

Woodpecker, you're on a hiding to nothing trying to convince MacG of anything. As with the "conspiracy" of global warming, he's made his mind up and that's that.

Hmm... You behave like on of my former girlfriends. She could never accept any kind of opposition. In the rare case I dared to express a contrary opinion she nagged about it forever given half a chance.

[Lord Beria3]

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article24643.html

Could Wikileaks Revealing Major Bank Secrets Crash the Global Economy?

However there is a serious risk that in a forthcoming 'mega leak' on the Wikileaks website during early 2011, may contain critical information on the state of any number of the worlds major banks that could trigger another September 2008 Lehman's style financial contagion panic event.

Julian Assange, the founder of Wikileaks told Forbes in an interview :

“We have one related to a bank coming up, that’s a megaleak."

“It’s not as big a scale as the Iraq material, but it’s either tens or hundreds of thousands of documents depending on how you define it.”

“You could call it the ecosystem of corruption,”

“It’s also all the regular decision making that turns a blind eye to and supports unethical practices: The oversight that’s not done, the priorities of executives, how they think they’re fulfilling their own self-interest.”

He did not elaborate on which bank, but it can be concluded that it would likely be on one of the current 10 largest investment banks rather than Lehman's or others that have been nationalised or taken over by other banks.

Likely candidates for the banking 'mega-leak' are:

JP Morgan
Goldman Sachs
Barclays
Citibank
HSBC
Bank of America
Deutsche Bank
BNP Paribas
UBS
Given the leaks to date, probability favours it being a major US bank with the most probable therefore being JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs.

Julian Assange is on media a roll, and may go a step too far by triggering financial armageddon as the worlds economies have already virtually bankrupted themselves by bailing out their bankrupt banks and therefore are not any shape to embark up on a new series of mega bailouts as a consequence of new information released, especially as the financial markets will not wait for explanations but seek to act immediately to discount the risks implied by new exposures, which given the size of the $1.4 Quadrillion global derivatives market, would not take much in terms of further off balance sheet losses exposure to trigger a collapse of the whole global financial system that no country is big enough to bailing out.

Start buying some gold lads!

[nexus]

Well that's a list of the usual suspects bank-wise....

[Andy Hunt]

Sounds like one for the deep green resistance thread. Actively working to bring down the system, using nothing other than the truth, which always comes out in the end.

[RenewableCandy]

The Co-Op isn't on that lizt and I am so, SOOO smug...
Except (a) it's all connected, and (b) whoever does crash, will probably get bailed out at vast cost to the rest of us.

[Guest]

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[JohnB]

There is just something about this WikiLeaks site that doesn't sit right with me.

On the other hand, there's something about the institutions they're exposing that doesn't sit right either. It's all a big game, but I wish the players would bugger off somewhere else to play it .

[Lord Beria3]

There is just something about this WikiLeaks site that doesn't sit right with me.

Here might be some answers...

http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ ... he-damned/

The first of two pro­grams deal­ing with Wik­iLeaks, this broad­cast exam­ines an intel­li­gence–con­nected mind con­trol cult with which Wik­iLeaks king­pin Julian Assange appears to be affil­i­ated. As well con­nected as it is ruth­less and crim­i­nal, the San­ti­nike­tan Park Asso­ci­a­tion of Anne Hamilton-Byrne con­di­tioned chil­dren with drugs, sen­sory depri­va­tion, sleep depri­va­tion, tor­ture and rit­ual sex­ual abuse in order to pro­duce sub­jects who bent to the will of the group’s leader.

Although Assange (pic­tured at left) claims to have been “on the run” from the cult, his claims of links to Aus­tralian intel­li­gence plus his strange, “plat­inum” col­ored hair (dis­tinc­tive of chil­dren raised in the group) sug­gest that the con­nec­tions may run much deeper. (Recall in this con­text that the group prac­tices rig­or­ous, sophis­ti­cated mind-control method­ol­ogy and Assange him­self may be sin­cerely unaware of the depth of his appar­ent links to the group. The orga­ni­za­tion also devel­ops mul­ti­ple iden­ti­ties for the chil­dren raised in its ranks, as well as obtain­ing mul­ti­ple pass­ports for them. Assange’s mother claims his hair turned white fol­low­ing a dif­fi­cult cus­tody case involv­ing a child of his. As will be seen later, Assange claims that Aus­tralian intel­li­gence has advised him, and there is an appar­ent link between Aus­tralian intel­li­gence and the cult.)

Warning: a very disturbing article...

[caspian]

I see that the smearing of WikiLeaks and its founder have started in earnest, helped by the tinfoil hat brigade and assorted institutional/governmental people and their fellow travellers. Its funny, because some of these people seem to think they're being ever so transgressive and iconoclastic by rubbishing WikiLeaks, but its really just doing the dirty work of the government/business oligarchy.

I don't know if the forthcoming WikiLeaks banking 'megaleak' will cause a global financial meltdown, but part of me would like to see it happen. On the other hand, the rational part of my brain tells me that things could go Mad Max very quickly. Doesn't mean he shouldn't do it, but it won't look pretty.

[MacG]

I see that the smearing of WikiLeaks and its founder have started in earnest, helped by the tinfoil hat brigade and assorted institutional/governmental people and their fellow travellers. Its funny, because some of these people seem to think they're being ever so transgressive and iconoclastic by rubbishing WikiLeaks, but its really just doing the dirty work of the government/business oligarchy.

I don't know if the forthcoming WikiLeaks banking 'megaleak' will cause a global financial meltdown, but part of me would like to see it happen. On the other hand, the rational part of my brain tells me that things could go Mad Max very quickly. Doesn't mean he shouldn't do it, but it won't look pretty.

So you think "openness" and "disclosure" only apply to the people you happen to dislike? "Whats good for the goose is good for the gander" they used to say...

Besides, I have NOT suggested that the people behind Wikileaks have bad or egoistic motives. On the contrary. It is just that I think there is more behind the thing than what is openly declared.

[caspian]

So you think "openness" and "disclosure" only apply to the people you happen to dislike?

No, where did you get that idea from? If it's in the public interest to know, then let the facts out I say. I'm of the opinion that there's very little official business that truly needs to be secret. The Man would like you to think otherwise, of course, and in this country our officialdom is absolutely obsessed with secrecy.

It is just that I think there is more behind the thing than what is openly declared.

Based on what exactly? Insinuations like this are just pure FUD that play right into the hands of those who'd rather their dirty laundry weren't hung out for all to see. I'm immensely enjoying the public debagging of America. I don't really care what Julian Assange's motives are, and I don't share his right-wing "free markets are great" ideology as espoused in that Forbes interview. As far as I can tell he's just putting his money where his mouth is. He believes in unfettered free speech, and that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

[contadino]

None of it is really earth-shattering though is it?

Well, maybe they've just inadvertently prevented a war...

China supports the "independent and peaceful reunification of the Korean peninsula" and cannot afford to give the North Korean regime the impression it has a blank cheque to act any way it wants, Chinese officials based in Europe said today.

From http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/no ... CMP=twt_gu

[2 As and a B]

It is just that I think there is more behind the thing than what is openly declared.

Too right! Just ask Bradley Manning, currently enjoying a prolonged all-expenses-paid stay at a luxury resort somewhere in the USA.