Open Question to Powerswitchers From RGR. Input requested.

[Keela]

Self sufficiency can be a good idea at many levels.

If your country is not doing it then perhaps the individuals should try! It certainly can't do any harm!

[RGR]

[Vortex]

Hmm ... our evening meal comprised our own lamb and our own vegetables.

OK, the mustard was bought in.

It was all rather good!

[Catweazle]

I grew up in a place where we grew our own vegetables, sold the surplus sweet corn, ate our own chickens and collected our turkeys for Thanksgiving and venison for the freezer the old fashioned way...using a gun.

For some reason Doomers seem to define food security as having their own little plot to grow things in, which is different than the concept of an entire country being self sufficient in food production.

Hey RGR, you're 2nd Generation "Doomer"

[RGR]

[RGR]

Hey RGR, you're 2nd Generation "Doomer"

[Catweazle]

Hey RGR, you're 2nd Generation "Doomer"

We never called it being a "Doomer". Its just what you did for food when raised poor in Appalachia. I didn't eat meat between the age of 11 and 18 that I hadn't personally put a bullet into.

I certainly don't begrudge a dirt-farmer lifestyle to anyone who wants it,albeit the attraction eludes me. To be honest, if every peak oiler who wanted to be a farmer would just get it DONE already, it might not even be necessary to write a technical paper on how screwed up their resource depletion ideas are.

I don't call it "Doomer" either, I call it a sensible precaution when we can no longer rely on imports. remember, the UK imports 40% of its food.
We have already seen substantial price rises.

[the mad cyclist]

Won’t importing food, just be an economic problem? Ships are large platforms that can be powered by almost any type of energy.

[Catweazle]

Won’t importing food, just be an economic problem? Ships are large platforms that can be powered by almost any type of energy.

Does it matter if the food isn't on my table because it doesn't exist or because I can't afford to have it shipped to me ? Hungry is hungry.

I don't think we can rely on it appearing in the supermarket at a low price, so a bit of contingency gardening and fuel production makes perfect sense to me.

[the mad cyclist]

Won’t importing food, just be an economic problem? Ships are large platforms that can be powered by almost any type of energy.

Does it matter if the food isn't on my table because it doesn't exist or because I can't afford to have it shipped to me ? Hungry is hungry.

I don't think we can rely on it appearing in the supermarket at a low price, so a bit of contingency gardening and fuel production makes perfect sense to me.

I couldn’t agree more, but you and I are fortunate, the vast majority of people living in this country, haven’t the space to grow a meaningful amount of food.

[RGR]

[madibe]

RGR - are you tired yet?

Love how this thread has blossomed though...nice work.

So please tell us all about your publications, then we can read them. It would be kind of cool.

Otherwis of course, we have to just imagine your mental prowess.

[RGR]

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[madibe]

Seriously RGR. Why your reluctance to offer up your publications for viewing. Surely if it is published you can tell us?

Otherwise you are wanking in a dark closet.... Ah, sorry, I was trying to be poetic and failed.

Your last mail does point to you being a wind up merchant though.

Sorry, but that's how it looks.

Go on, dish the dirty and let us know some publications we can read. Or at least give a hint where we can look.

Otherwise I guess we have no option but to put you down as a troll / faker / narcist. Delete as appropriate.

[RGR]

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