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As a brand newcomer to this site I would appreciate some of the 'big guns' showing up or someone pointing me in the direction of their high caliber writings elsewhere.

I believe that things are likely to get more difficult in the next few years but I have some anxieties or crises of faith and could do with some robust debate around the topic by the best brains available. I promise to try and keep up.
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modcons wrote:As a brand newcomer to this site I would appreciate some of the 'big guns' showing up or someone pointing me in the direction of their high caliber writings elsewhere.
Welcome modcons.
also, modcons wrote:I believe that things are likely to get more difficult in the next few years but I have some anxieties or crises of faith and could do with some robust debate around the topic by the best brains available. I promise to try and keep up.
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Put my view across? Influence people? Vortex is the only one who thinks he actually knows how I put "my view across", or what "influence" I may have when doing science. Internet blogging and forums? Are you kidding? Who would ever confuse that with "trying to put my view across"?
I’m lost. I don’t know why you’re not entitled to give your views, and after what you’ve just said, why you bother? :?
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AndySir wrote: But you don't present any ideas or information, just tell us that you have or are going to soon somewhere else unspecified.
Really? For example, you didn't already know previous to this thread that the worlds largest oilfield wasn't included in peaker discovery graphs. Now you do.
Actually I did already know that, and I also knew why it wasn't included which appears to put me one step ahead of the 'expert' who still seems determined that heavy crude extraction == light crude extraction. Go ahead, pivot to attacks on doomer cults, which I notice is your way of dealing with facts you don't like.
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I want to see the proof that peak oil is a myth, I really do. I have kids and I want them to enjoy the same advantages as I do.

So, far from being in the cult of the "peaker", I'm looking for good news. The trouble is, wherever I look it isn't there.

It seems I'm not alone, many industry figures expect hard times, governments have started making contingency plans, the military recognises the problem.

And then there's RGR, standing alone like Canute on the beach, commanding the tide to advance no more.

I can see your future, dry wells and wet feet.
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modcons wrote:As a brand newcomer to this site I would appreciate some of the 'big guns' showing up or someone pointing me in the direction of their high caliber writings elsewhere.

I believe that things are likely to get more difficult in the next few years but I have some anxieties or crises of faith and could do with some robust debate around the topic by the best brains available.
You appear to be suggesting that what you have read already is "not of high caliber". If so, I suggest you go somewhere else. There are not many idiots here.
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Catweazle wrote:I want to see the proof that peak oil is a myth, I really do. I have kids and I want them to enjoy the same advantages as I do.

So, far from being in the cult of the "peaker", I'm looking for good news. The trouble is, wherever I look it isn't there.

It seems I'm not alone, many industry figures expect hard times, governments have started making contingency plans, the military recognises the problem.

And then there's RGR, standing alone like Canute on the beach, commanding the tide to advance no more.

I can see your future, dry wells and wet feet.

Me too.

And I'd like to know why all those articles I keep reading, about how life is just going to carry on as it is, because it always has, seem to dismiss, or completely ignore, the relentless rise of consumerism in the East?
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UndercoverElephant wrote:
modcons wrote:As a brand newcomer to this site I would appreciate some of the 'big guns' showing up or someone pointing me in the direction of their high caliber writings elsewhere.

I believe that things are likely to get more difficult in the next few years but I have some anxieties or crises of faith and could do with some robust debate around the topic by the best brains available.
You appear to be suggesting that what you have read already is "not of high caliber". If so, I suggest you go somewhere else. There are not many idiots here.
Not at all, easy tiger, I was quoting a longer standing member (catweazle) who wished that the 'big guns" would show up just a few pages back.
Catweazle wrote:I've just had a really nice curry, and whilst I was eating I was wondering why none of the PowerSwitch "big guns" have chipped in on this thread recently.

All is now clear. RGR manages to annoy the smart guys so much that they switch off, and ignore his threads. This leaves mediocre intellects like me to jump in and get twisted up in trolls arguments,

What a smart ploy, I wonder who thought of it.
So cheers, I find a useful convention common to most forum sites is reading the thread before getting snippy, eh.
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modcons wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:
modcons wrote:As a brand newcomer to this site I would appreciate some of the 'big guns' showing up or someone pointing me in the direction of their high caliber writings elsewhere.

I believe that things are likely to get more difficult in the next few years but I have some anxieties or crises of faith and could do with some robust debate around the topic by the best brains available.
You appear to be suggesting that what you have read already is "not of high caliber". If so, I suggest you go somewhere else. There are not many idiots here.
Not at all, easy tiger, I was quoting a longer standing member (catweazle) who wished that the 'big guns" would show up just a few pages back.
Catweazle wrote:I've just had a really nice curry, and whilst I was eating I was wondering why none of the PowerSwitch "big guns" have chipped in on this thread recently.

All is now clear. RGR manages to annoy the smart guys so much that they switch off, and ignore his threads. This leaves mediocre intellects like me to jump in and get twisted up in trolls arguments,

What a smart ploy, I wonder who thought of it.
So cheers, I find a useful convention common to most forum sites is reading the thread before getting snippy, eh.
I apologise. We have recently been invaded by large numers of spammers, research students and homeless ex-LATOC denialists.
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modcons wrote:Not at all, easy tiger, I was quoting a longer standing member (catweazle) who wished that the 'big guns" would show up just a few pages back.
Which just goes to show that you should never quote a mediocre intellect, two wrongs don't make a right :wink: :D
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No worries :D

I recently hosted the eminent NZ climatologist Dr Jim Salinger. There were a bunch of denialists there who he crushed with his command of the subject.
Having previously been in a few cocktail discussions with some of these expert denialists I was reassured, if disappointed, to see their arguments were easily revealed to be half understandings and incomplete.

I was hoping for some clarity like that.
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modcons wrote:No worries :D

I recently hosted the eminent NZ climatologist Dr Jim Salinger. There were a bunch of denialists there who he crushed with his command of the subject.
Having previously been in a few cocktail discussions with some of these expert denialists I was reassured, if disappointed, to see their arguments were easily revealed to be half understandings and incomplete.

I was hoping for some clarity like that.
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