Open Question to Powerswitchers From RGR. Input requested.

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 17 Oct 2010, 14:45

biffvernon wrote:
RGR wrote:
biffvernon wrote: So what's the point of telling us that we can read your publications?
I would estimate that there is a nearly 100% chance you already have.
That's quite a surprising statement with a nearly 100% chance of being wrong unless you don't just live in the Rocky Mountains but actually work for the Rocky Mountains Institute. As Ken says, we may have the wrong one.

Any chance of a link to some of RGRs papers, or minutes where he has addressed conferences ? I think I'm searching for the wrong person too, all I could find is a plumber in Indiana who doesn't appear to have written anything that Google considers worthy of indexing.

Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 18 Oct 2010, 20:19

You guessed the wrong RGR there.

RGR: I may or may not agree with your arguments about the future availability of liquid fuels.

However you do seem to take the long view.

I am more concerned about short term fluctuations in liquid fuel availability during any transition to either new liquid fuels (or equivalents) .. or into an 'energy descent'.

We might win the war ... but quite a few of us could be mightily bruised during one of the coming battles!

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 18 Oct 2010, 20:27

Good evening Vortex. Long time no see. How in the hell are you?

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 18 Oct 2010, 22:00

Catweazle wrote:Any chance of a link to some of RGRs papers, or minutes where he has addressed conferences ? I think I'm searching for the wrong person too, all I could find is a plumber in Indiana who doesn't appear to have written anything that Google considers worthy of indexing.

RGR stands for Reserve Growth Rules not necessarily his true name.

Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 18 Oct 2010, 22:15

Aurora wrote: Good evening Vortex. Long time no see. How in the hell are you?

Busy. Very busy. Looking after animals and also running the business in a recession takes 25 hours a day.

And don't get me started on planning applications and the endless extra 'vital actions' and the extra data the planners need ..

Hint: I now have to build a cycle rack for two bikes in one of our fields ...

TV & Web are way down the list of priorities.

As one mother of several children once replied to the question:
"What do you do in your spare time?"
"Go to the loo."

I understand her sentiments.

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 18 Oct 2010, 22:28

kenneal wrote:
Catweazle wrote:Any chance of a link to some of RGRs papers, or minutes where he has addressed conferences ? I think I'm searching for the wrong person too, all I could find is a plumber in Indiana who doesn't appear to have written anything that Google considers worthy of indexing.
RGR stands for Reserve Growth Rules not necessarily his true name.

I know, or "Rulez" . But someone posted a name earlier, I was surprised to find it was someone who appears to be interested in the whole peak-oil thing, but is in fact running his father-in-laws plumbing company.

I'd be disappointed to find that RGR is actually a Walter Mitty, he's a clever chap, although I think him obnoxious and possibly sociopathic.

Andy Hunt · Post by **Andy Hunt** » 18 Oct 2010, 22:45

People who really are experts don't tend to feel the need to get their cock out to impress the general public. I think it's pretty notable that you don't get climate scientists hauling their bloated egos around in full view the way RGR does on this forum.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 19 Oct 2010, 07:57

Hiding one's real identity on t'internet devalues any comments made, in my opinion.

Backing one's comments by reference to one's peer-reviewed publications but not providing access to those publications is just 'avin' a larf.

Blue Peter · Post by **Blue Peter** » 19 Oct 2010, 09:40

biffvernon wrote:Hiding one's real identity on t'internet devalues any comments made, in my opinion.

Backing one's comments by reference to one's peer-reviewed publications but not providing access to those publications is just 'avin' a larf.

Didn't RGR send some papers to Vortex? Vortex seemed pretty impressed with them, I think,

Peter.

nexus · Post by **nexus** » 19 Oct 2010, 09:46

People who really are experts don't tend to feel the need to get their cock out to impress the general public. I think it's pretty notable that you don't get climate scientists hauling their bloated egos around in full view the way RGR does on this forum.

Troll's gettin' fat again.

Nice way to hook us all in RGR, flattery, oldest trick in the book.

RGR · Post by **RGR** » 19 Oct 2010, 13:13

biffvernon wrote:Hiding one's real identity on t'internet devalues any comments made, in my opinion.

Backing one's comments by reference to one's peer-reviewed publications but not providing access to those publications is just 'avin' a larf.

RGR · Post by **RGR** » 19 Oct 2010, 13:15

nexus wrote:
Nice way to hook us all in RGR, flattery, oldest trick in the book.

Post by **clv101** » 19 Oct 2010, 13:45

RGR wrote:
biffvernon wrote:Hiding one's real identity on t'internet devalues any comments made, in my opinion.

Backing one's comments by reference to one's peer-reviewed publications but not providing access to those publications is just 'avin' a larf.
Wait until some internet crackpot shows up at your office one afternoon, demanding to have it out with someone who offended them online, see what you think about the topic then.

That's a misplaced concern. The Oil Drum folk all use their real names and this has never happened. Many people have published papers, written books, journalistic articles and addressed conferences under their real names.

In the past people used to keep their identities secret on-line. Not any more as you simply can't be taken very seriously in most debates whilst using a pseudonym.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 19 Oct 2010, 14:24

Yeah and what's more I don't have an office. Anyone who doesn't like what I say online is welcome to pop round to my shed and have a chat over a nice cup of tea though.

RGR · Post by **RGR** » 20 Oct 2010, 00:30

[quote="clv101"][quote="RGR"][quote="biffvernon"]Hiding one's real identity on t'internet devalues any comments made, in my opinion.