Did anyone notice the new "Department óf Levelling Up"?

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Did anyone notice the new "Department óf Levelling Up"?

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I followed your link. The only headline missing is "Tractor Production up 24%"
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"Levelling Up" what?

The Levellers were a band in the 1980s and a movement sometime earlier to do with land reform I think.
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More useful would be a Department of Wrapping Up.

Ministers setting a good example by wearing a nice wooly jumper and subsidies for warm clothing. The UK needs to get out of the habit of wearing T shirts around the house in Winter.

Perhaps the BBC could start showing more dramas from Greenland, fashion is a powerful thing.
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I am getting to the point where I try and ignore this stuff
for the sake of my mental equilibrium. The ministry of silly
walks comes to mind.
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Catweazle wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:06 pm More useful would be a Department of Wrapping Up.

Ministers setting a good example by wearing a nice wooly jumper and subsidies for warm clothing. The UK needs to get out of the habit of wearing T shirts around the house in Winter.

Perhaps the BBC could start showing more dramas from Greenland, fashion is a powerful thing.
I agree that warm clothing should be worn in winter. However I recall a politician suggesting this and being hugely criticised.
"patronising" "out of touch" "give us more money" "free fuel for the poor"

T shirts should be considered only as summer attire.
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adam2 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:13 am ..................
I agree that warm clothing should be worn in winter. However I recall a politician suggesting this and being hugely criticised.
"patronising" "out of touch" "give us more money" "free fuel for the poor"

T shirts should be considered only as summer attire.
The saying "There's no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing!" comes to mind. Perhaps that should be pushed at every available opportunity.

Two incidents from the TV over the last couple of days: pictures on the news of young girls out at night recently in skimpy dresses with no coats contrasted with Martin Clunes with eminent wildlife photographer, Hamza Yassin, out in Scotland on the day after midsummer in foul weather in heavy coats and waterproofs and Hamza Yassin quotes the above saying.
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kenneal - lagger wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:37 pm

.......pictures on the news of young girls out at night recently in skimpy dresses with no coats........
Memories of the Bigg Market in Newcastle upon Tyne
any time of the year on a Friday or Saturday night! It
gobsmacked several friends visiting from London who
thought they had seen it all.
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"Wear Warm" campaign launched....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... BADOS.html

Amazing that we have to urge people like this.
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Catweazle wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:59 am "Wear Warm" campaign launched....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... BADOS.html

Amazing that we have to urge people like this.
Agree, with sensible clothing, no one in normal health needs to heat their home warmer than 22 degrees, and 21 would suffice for most.

Sensible winter indoor clothing is IMHO as below.

Wool socks with slippers or shoes.
Warm trousers, preferably wool, with short underpants, or alternatively lightweight trousers and natural fiber long underwear.
A thick long sleeved brushed cotton shirt, with either a natural fiber vest under it or a (preferably wool) pullover over it.

Additional or alternative layers are of course possible, but the above should be regarded as the minimum in UK indoor winter conditions.

Those with limited mobility due to age or infirmity may need warmer conditions, but those in normal health do not.

Children unless disabled do not need more warmth than adults, running around and screaming is presumably warming. They should be trained from an early age to put on a pullover if cold.

Bedrooms for children and adults can be much cooler, provided that sufficient warm bedding is used. 16 degrees should be ample and 13 probably acceptable.

Minimum bedding for UK winter conditions.
A thick wool blanket or a padded mattress cover under the bottom sheet.
A brushed cotton bottom sheet.
A natural filled duvet, of generous thickness, in a brushed cotton cover.
Alternatively a brushed cotton top sheet and several generously sized thick ALL WOOL blankets. If the blankets are reasonably new and thick, three are likely sufficient. If the blankets are old and worn thin, or of doubtful quality, you may need an extra one.

Avoid polyester and other fake stuff. Sheets should be all cotton, blankets all wool, and duvets filled with feathers (cheap and warm) or down (expensive but lighter in weight for the warmth) or perhaps wool filled, no direct experience of these.
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I was in the garden yesterday with a hat and two layers of warm clothing. My grandson was with in in shorts and t shirt!! I asked him if he was cold and got a strange look in reply.

The daughter's house is so well insulated that as soon as you light the fire it shoots up to the mid twenties. Their fires don't usually last very long!
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Activity keeps children warm, and they need less clothing than adults in similar conditions. All but very young children should be trained to put on warmer clothes when activity ceases, BEFORE they feel cold.

A neighbours teenagers both suffered from mild hyperthermia whilst working on a local farm. They were fine when doing active outdoor work, but became uncomfortably cold when packing vegetables in an unheated shed. This involved little physical effort.
They now dress more suitably, and know that a lightweight polycotton warehouse coat is useful for some types of work but NOT WARM.
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