Has something gone wrong electrically in France ?

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Has something gone wrong electrically in France ?

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At present we are exporting electricity to France, an unusual situation. Exports to France usually indicate either plenty of wind power in the UK, or a power shortage in France.

UK wind power is about 6 GW at present, not unusually high.
About 1.5 GW of coal generation is in use, so we are in effect burning coal to supply electricity to France.

The weather in France is reported as cold but not in any way exceptional.
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Shouldn't we be boycotting them in protest. I hope that we have reminded them of the fact that we could stick two fingers up to them in future.
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In general we are more reliant on France than they are on us, even though the position is reversed at present.

Exports to France continued throughout the evening peak and even increased to about 1.2 GW.
Very odd, coal burning remains at 1.5 GW.
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Sometimes they needed power from the UK when their workers in the electricity sector were on strike. It could be possible that they are striking for some insignificant reason that has not made the news. Or they may be selling power to someone else for more than they are paying for it from the UK. Horrid people!
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Electricity exports to France are ongoing, not continually of course, but to a much greater extent than has been the norm in recent years.
About 1 GW at present.
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Price! Day ahead price in France is 244 euro/MWh.
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Nice to know that it not just us suffering high prices. But WHY so high in France ? nuclear appears to be near normal. Gas is hugely expensive but France has only limited gas burning capacity. If they can afford to buy gas generated power from us, they could presumably use their own.
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adam2 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:56 pm Nice to know that it not just us suffering high prices. But WHY so high in France ? nuclear appears to be near normal. Gas is hugely expensive but France has only limited gas burning capacity. If they can afford to buy gas generated power from us, they could presumably use their own.
Perhaps they are running down the UK gas reserves now so that they can sell electricity back to a more desperate UK for a greater price in December? Can't be ruled especially for a country like France currently in quite a spiteful mood. UK politicians and civil servants as clueless and gullible as ever.
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Ongoing, exports to France though not continuous are greatly exceeding imports from France into the UK. Often at nearly 2 GW which is the currently available interconnector capacity. 1 GW is still out of order after the fire at the converter station in Kent.

It is however regrettable that we are burning coal in order to export electricity to France.

I still find it a bit surprising that the French need our electricity, not aware of any exceptional demand, unusual breakdowns or industrial disputes in France.
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Is it cheaper for the French to get us to burn coal here and supply them with electricity or is it just more politically expedient for them to get someone else to burn coal. What ever the answer I would suspect some political gain for the French and I await the repercussions somewhere down the line.
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