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woodburner wrote:
kenneal - lagger wrote:
woodburner wrote:................
Your post is full of 97% to 100% assumption. You have no idea why I didn’t answer the question, much less how I avoided it. You should ask them, not me.
You are quite happy to swallow the garbage spouted by non scientists in the pay of fossil fuel companies but you won't listen to what scientists paid by fossil fuel companies say. It would seem that anything a scientist says is wrong in your mind. What a strange way of thinking you have!

Ad hominem attack again.
And you have avoided the question yet again so I'll repeat it for you.

How do you explain, Woodburner, that even the fossil fuel industry's own scientists found that global warming is a fact. Or are they in on the conspiracy as well?
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I said you should ask them. Why ask me? Am I their keeper?
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If you have questions about the operation of a TEQ system, you should ask in the TEQ forum. We're going off-topic here.
Going off topic here? Doesn’t often happen on PS 😉

I wouldn’t campaign for a C&S system. People need to do what they think is right, not let someone else do it so they can just pay to avoid whatever effort is involved.
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[i]woodburner[/i] wrote:I wouldn’t campaign for a C&S system. People need to do what they think is right, not let someone else do it so they can just pay to avoid whatever effort is involved.
wb, you are so predictable. That’s not an insult. :wink:
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Touche´.
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emordnilap wrote:
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emordnilap wrote:22. Campaign for the introduction of TEQs/C&S
I think that would be an opening for usuerers to make money at everyone elses expense.
22.5 Legislate that TEQs can only be sold at normal open market prices? Whatever, it’s not a reason to not implement them.
No need - that's already how TEQs works 8)
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Shaun Chamberlin wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
woodburner wrote: I think that would be an opening for usuerers to make money at everyone elses expense.
22.5 Legislate that TEQs can only be sold at normal open market prices? Whatever, it’s not a reason to not implement them.
No need - that's already how TEQs works 8)
Ha! You don't miss a trick Shaun.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:To add to the above, something that we can't change on our own, but which is at the centre of the problem -

19 Replace the banking system with one which doesn't require or pay interest.
Wouldn't abandoning the money system accomplish everything we need to make a massive difference?

Remove the motivation?
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Shaun Chamberlin wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
woodburner wrote: I think that would be an opening for usuerers to make money at everyone elses expense.
22.5 Legislate that TEQs can only be sold at normal open market prices? Whatever, it’s not a reason to not implement them.
No need - that's already how TEQs works 8)
https://www.flemingpolicycentre.org.uk/faqs/#Traders
There would have to be stringent safeguards put in place to stop brokers robbing blind individual traders of small numbers of TEQs to stop the rich getting richer and the poor, poorer as we now have.
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