Ebola outbreak, and other potential epidemics

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Breaking news:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29559444
The UK is to introduce "enhanced screening" for Ebola for arrivals from affected countries.

Downing Street said passengers will face questions and potentially a medical assessment.

It comes after the chairman of an influential Commons committee and the Labour Party called for such tests.

Earlier ministers had ruled out screening, saying the UK was following World Health Organisation advice.
Hmmm, yes. Another example of doing what was required 4 weeks ago, instead of what is required now.
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Ebola screening of arrivals to start
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29559444

Too little and too late IMHO though better than nothing.
Lets hope that something meaningful is actually done, and quickly. I fear that this MAY be the start of some lengthy consultation and discussions, rather than actual action, but we will see.

Better as many others have suggested, would be to stop all commercial flights from affected countries with only military flights to/from secure air force bases being allowed
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PS_RalphW wrote:I was listening to the BBC a week ago about GP visit waiting times.
My wife just booked a non-emergency, routine appointment and was told the first slot was in six weeks! One of the practice GPs is off sick and there's a shortage of locums.
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But back on topic:

Here's the lates list of who is giving what:

http://www.theguardian.com/global-devel ... ng-pledges

And across t'pond
Prompted by recent Ebola scares, about 200 cabin cleaners at New York’s La Guardia Airport have walked off the job over what they say are safety concerns.
The protesting workers are employed by Air Serv, which contracts with Delta to clean airplane cabins and bathrooms, and organizers predict the strike will last 24 hours.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/plane-ca ... 1412864868
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2 ... a-day-live

British man dies from (suspected) Ebola in Macedonia.
A Health Ministry official said the man had arrived in the capital, Skopje, from Britain on Oct. 2 and had been rushed to hospital at 3 p.m. (1300 GMT) on Thursday, where he died several hours later.

Dr. Jovanka Kostovska of the ministry’s commission for infectious diseases said the man had been suffering from fever, vomiting and internal bleeding, and that his condition deteriorated rapidly.

“These are all symptoms of Ebola, which raises suspicions with this patient,” Kostovska told a news conference, adding that samples had been sent to Germany for tests to confirm the cause of death.
So he came from the UK? :shock:

From the same source: multiple potential cases in France:
France quarantines building as 4 children tested

A social services centre in the Paris suburb of Cergy Pontoise was sealed off on Thursday night after four children reported to have to have recently come to France from Guinea, one of the countries affected by Ebola, showed symptoms of the virus...

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Officials said between 50 and 100 people, several of whom recently returned to Guinea, were being confined in the building, which had been quarantined while the emergency services examined the children.
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I'll tell you what; I wouldn't want to be in the refugee camps outside Calais just now.
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(Complacency + hubris - precautionary principle) / (loss of airline + oil corp profits) = clusterf***

:roll: :evil:
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another_exlurker wrote:(Complacency + hubris - precautionary principle) / (loss of airline + oil corp profits) = clusterf***

:roll: :evil:
OR

(Complacency + hubris - precautionary principle) = (loss of hundreds of millions of customers) = >> (loss of airline + oil corp profits) = even worse clusterf***
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Mean Mr Mustard wrote:
another_exlurker wrote:(Complacency + hubris - precautionary principle) / (loss of airline + oil corp profits) = clusterf***

:roll: :evil:
OR

(Complacency + hubris - precautionary principle) = (loss of hundreds of millions of customers) = >> (loss of airline + oil corp profits) = even worse clusterf***
<wry chuckle> That's probably the more accurate equation.
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Post by madibe »

the above equation is good, but you forgot the multiplier:

incompetence squared.

Meanwhile.... interesting to see how this is progressing eh?

About 2 weeks ago I made the mistake of mentioning this at work. Of course, I got totally slated, with one colleague even going so far as to pen a 'song' about my interest in Ebola and its possible spread. Oh, how the banter went on and on....

Funny - not so much joking about it (and me) now.

Tumbleweed in fact. :wink:
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One of the causes for the appalling lack of healthcare in West Africa, thereby exacerbating the spread of Ebola, can be laid squarely at the feet of the IMF and World Bank.
In Guinea, for example, the Bamako Initiative of 1987 led to a shift towards a fee-paying healthcare system leading to many treatments being beyond the reach of ordinary citizens. The Bamako Initiative was drawn up in collaboration with the World Bank and led to the decentralisation of healthcare across Benin, Guinea and Nigeria. The decentralised system has stymied the ability to formulate an effective national plan against Ebola. In Sierra Leone free healthcare only extends to pregnant and breast-feeding women and children under five. And these countries pay more in interest on debts to the World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) than they spend on healthcare, education, or infrastructure.
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Mean Mr Mustard wrote:
another_exlurker wrote:(Complacency + hubris - precautionary principle) / (loss of airline + oil corp profits) = clusterf***

:roll: :evil:
OR

(Complacency + hubris - precautionary principle) = (loss of hundreds of millions of customers) = >> (loss of airline + oil corp profits) = even worse clusterf***
But the loss here is later so much more preferable. You've got to keep the profits rolling in as long as possible.
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I think all you people in the UK will be well protected from Ebola. I've seen the 'script' that these expert health 'officials' will use at Heathrow, Gatwick and St Pancras.

Official: excuse me sir/madam but do you have Ebola?
Passenger: No
Official: thank you for your help. Have a nice day.
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boisdevie wrote:I think all you people in the UK will be well protected from Ebola. I've seen the 'script' that these expert health 'officials' will use at Heathrow, Gatwick and St Pancras.

Official: excuse me sir/madam but do you have Ebola?
Passenger: No
Official: thank you for your help. Have a nice day.
And of course potentially infected passengers might enter the UK by sea, or via an airport other than those listed.
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No system of quarantining/movement restrictions will be perfect or anywhere near it. That does not mean such measures should not be implemented, as long as they can be shown to have a significant enough effect to be worth it. The point of the exercise with such measures is not to stop all infections from occurring. That would be impossible. It is to bring the reinfection rate down to below 1.
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