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There's another problem with politics - you might like single policies from several different parties.

It's easy being me - I like no existing policies, nor any political parties.
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Nick Griffin has taken up T.V. cooking! Yes really :)
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RenewableCandy wrote:Nick Griffin has taken up T.V. cooking! Yes really :)
"Traditional British fare". I wonder if that includes black pudding?
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Or Irish Stew...have a look at the comments :)
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Seems migration is ok for the rich. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... gners.html
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They forgot about buying a football club as a way to get a visa!! This would seem to cause large scale unemployment in this country

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among football managers!! :D
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RenewableCandy wrote:Nick Griffin has taken up T.V. cooking! Yes really :)
Well, he has to save the pennies now....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25590155
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biffvernon wrote:An international Law of Ecocide may be an unrealistic pipe-dream, but I'm campaigning for it. The campaign itself draws attention to the problem so the journey may be worthwhile even if we don't reach the destination.
More about ecocide.
The concept of ecocide reflects a worldview where humans are part of living systems, instead of dominating them, where nature is valuable in itself, not just as a resource for humans. The need for such a cultural shift is growing, and support for a law of ecocide is actually not very far away. When the Rome Statute was negotiated, ecocide was considered for inclusion, but was left out for unclear reasons.
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Since this thread has been bumped, I wonder if the complete absence of a Bulgarian and Romanian invasion has altered UE's (and others) opinions at all?
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True, there are a lot here but they were here already working as self-employed. I've not seen any increase (nor decrease) in Romanian nationals at work.
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We've had a large Polish minority around here for at least a decade. I heard a couple of brickies talking in what sounded like Russian to me yesterday, but I'm not sure I tell Russian from similar languages.

When I was in Cypress recently I discovered there is widespread use of Filipino women as house maids and home nursing care on the island, and more recently Nepali and Bangladeshi women. They are recruited by legal agencies, but have dubious legal status, are widely exploited and kept in servitude, or even slavery. Passports confiscated, barely paid, unable to read their own contracts (written in Greek) and left with unpayable debts to the recruitment agencies.

My wife's cousin has set up the 'unofficial Nepali embassy' (There is no Nepali embassy or consulate in Cypress) and runs a low key support network, getting them legal support, fighting extradition, getting them paid agricultural work (plenty of that on the island). It makes him very unpopular with the local powers that be.
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PS_RalphW wrote:............. It makes him very unpopular with the local powers that be.
Much as I love the Greeks, that's not a place I would like to be ... I would be very careful if I were him.
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AndySir wrote: I wonder if the complete absence of a Bulgarian and Romanian invasion has altered UE's (and others) opinions at all?
It hasn't altered UKIP's policies, but since they are not founded on rational analysis of facts, altering the facts cannot be expected to result in change.
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AndySir wrote:Since this thread has been bumped, I wonder if the complete absence of a Bulgarian and Romanian invasion has altered UE's (and others) opinions at all?
Not in the slightest. Firstly, because only someone as disingenuous as yourself would choose to insert the word "invasion" in order to mischaracterize both the substance and tone of our position and, secondly, because of a deliberately constructed false dichotomy on your part to assume that our position is predicated on whether or not one particular influx from one particular location occurs at one specific time.
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biffvernon wrote:
AndySir wrote: I wonder if the complete absence of a Bulgarian and Romanian invasion has altered UE's (and others) opinions at all?
It hasn't altered UKIP's policies, but since they are not founded on rational analysis of facts, altering the facts cannot be expected to result in change.
Look who's talking. Since when was your own position based on an analysis of facts, Biff Vernon? Your position on everything non-scientific is driven by ideology and wishful thinking, not facts.
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