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Little John wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:
Little John wrote:We should all be under no illusions, by now, the the "legal processes" we have hitherto come to rely upon as setting a limit on state actions, to the extent they ever really existed, are gone now.

The gloves are off, the veil has been lifted and no outcome is discountable.
Very hard to predict, but there's definitely a risk for his tormentors that the more badly they treat him, the worse will be the outcome for them too. He's not an enemy combatant, and he's not even a US citizen who has broken a US law. For the US to illegally detain and punish a person recognised by the UN as a political prisoner would go well beyond anything the US has previously done. Similarly, if he suffered some unusual "accident" the same would apply - too many people would be waiting for it to happen. I think the political price the US would pay would be too high even for them.

It seems more likely that they'll try to find some way to shut him up that doesn't involve incarcerating him, if that is possible. Their best bet is to try to minimise the future damage he can do, perhaps by offering to leave him alone if he agrees to shut up.
The British ruling class has been holding him as a political prisoner for years on behalf of its Yank master. That same British ruling class is currently engaged in a false flag with two Russians, one of which is a Russian citizen. - effectively holding them hostage - denied access to consular services and, in the case of the daughter, denied access to even extended family members who wish to visit her. Meanwhile, the Yanks are currently digging in with bases in Syria in direct contravention of the wishes of the Syrian state and in direct contravention of any international rules. and, in the last few days, a blatent false flag in the form of yet another "chemical attack by the Syrian state" is being perpetrated by the Yanks and their cover on the ground the "white helmets". Simultaneously, the Israelis have used this as a pretext to shell Syrian government positions......
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Excellent, thanks UE.

This Slavoj Žižek mentioned there seems like a good guy, despite writing for The Guardian occasionally. :lol:

Does anyone know the best source for his articles?
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A couple of interesting posts at Automatic Earth:

I am Julian Assange

Have we all been silenced?
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The Assange travesty is coming to a head, I suspect.
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emordnilap wrote:The Assange travesty is coming to a head, I suspect.
In the sense that he will leave the Embassy, be arrested for breach of bail conditions probably go to jail for a couple of years and then be released.

I did deal with some people who escaped from the UK to Zimbabwe who were living in the Zimbabwean embassy. The courts were quite surprised because they were subject to port alerts.
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If I was him, I would top myself at this point in as public a manner as possible as one last "F--k you" to the bastards
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Little John wrote:If I was him, I would top myself at this point in as public a manner as possible as one last "F--k you" to the bastards
He can't even do that. He wouldn't get further than 200 metres from the embassy.

I expect there is now going to be a long, drawn-out legal battle to fight extradition to the US, unless Trump pardons him (which is not inconcievable).
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I expect him to get Seth Riched like this guy:

https://truepundit.com/intel-operative- ... ed-in-d-c/
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Extradition to the US will allow torture and execution, but then the UK government doesn’t give a stuff. What is perplexing is the vrious governments are lying toadies, exposed justifyably by Wikileaks, yet they still have the gall to pretend tjey are in the right, and Assange is portrayed as the criminal. The people at the top of this shit pile should be ashamed of themselves.
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Australia's Foreign Minister abandoned her duty to speak up for an Australian citizen, prosecuted with nothing, charged with nothing, guilty of nothing.
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It's over. He's been arrested.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... -wikileaks

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Extradition request from US confirmed

Scotland Yard has confirmed that Assange was arrested on behalf of the US after receiving a request for his extradition.

In a statement it said:

Julian Assange, 47, (03.07.71) has today, Thursday 11 April, been further arrested on behalf of the United States authorities, at 10:53hrs after his arrival at a central London police station. This is an extradition warrant under Section 73 of the Extradition Act. He will appear in custody at Westminster Magistrates’ Court as soon as possible.
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OK I got that one wrong. The US does not forgive or forget. Especially when people speak truth to power
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