Me too.UndercoverElephant wrote:Agreed. I sat on the fence regarding the EU and the single currency for a very long time, but history has proved that much of what the euroskeptics said was true, even if their motivation wasn't always pure as the driven snow. I would now vote for the UK to leave the EU completely if I was given the choice in a referendum.Cabrone wrote: The EU and their half baked ideas have a lot to answer for.
Like you I was on the fence for a long time (albeit with a dose of skepticism towards the Euro and how it worked) but now I just think they are incompetent, undemocratic and corrupt.
Just a few things....
- How they let Greece in after Goldman's had cooked the books was incompetent\criminal.
- How they thought that a single interest rate would work without strict lending controls on the banks was incompetent.
- How they think that free movement of people around the EU will have no impact on local working populations is naieve at best. The working class in the UK have been hammered.
- When a country's people (Ireland) reject their proposals they just ask them to vote again till they get it 'right' - that's when a country's population even get the chance to vote atall. Democracy when it suits them.
- The real power brokers (Barroso, Van Rumpy Pumpy etc) are unelected and paid huge salaries.
The banks were culpable, no arguments from me but ground zero of this car crash was the formation of the EZ and 'one size fits all' economic doctrine.
The EU needs to be rethought from the bottom up + become more like a proper state OR it needs to break up.
Either way, I want out.