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Totally_Baffled wrote:
PowerSwitchJames wrote:These riots are the kind of thing I was expecting in a post-peak world. These are only indirectly related.
I know what you mean, but it is not like rioting is a new thing. As far back as I can remember there is someone rioting about something.

One of the first people I saw interviewed on sky news was someone comparing it to riots in the same area in 1985.
I expect there will be more widespread riots as the economy becomes ever more dysfunctional. Stoneleigh is right when she says economic collapse effects are far more immediate than the mere erratic whipsawing upwards of oil prices...
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I'm increasingly angry about what I am seeing. Its about time the police cracked down on these thugs and looters - bring on the water cannons, plastic bullets and so on.

What the F--k are the police up to?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bi ... m-14452468
Disorder breaks out in Birmingham

Gangs of masked youths have gathered in Birmingham city centre and some shop windows have been smashed.
Also reports of disturbances in Peckham and Lewisham.
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How curious - we applaud bunches of disaffected, unemployed, marginalised youths for protesting against a rotten corrupt closed elite in the Arab countries, but get all sniffy when it happens here.

Start of the British Spring, perhaps?
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featherstick wrote:How curious - we applaud bunches of disaffected, unemployed, marginalised youths for protesting against a rotten corrupt closed elite in the Arab countries, but get all sniffy when it happens here.

Start of the British Spring, perhaps?
August always was the traditional time for rioting in England...
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featherstick wrote:How curious - we applaud bunches of disaffected, unemployed, marginalised youths for protesting against a rotten corrupt closed elite in the Arab countries, but get all sniffy when it happens here.

Start of the British Spring, perhaps?
But are the two groups of protesters so comparable? On the one hand you've got a population finally managing to rise up against a decades long dictatorship and on the other hand you've got bored youths raiding Bodyshop for a bit of fun. (OK, massive generalization, but you know what I mean)
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Erik wrote:
featherstick wrote:How curious - we applaud bunches of disaffected, unemployed, marginalised youths for protesting against a rotten corrupt closed elite in the Arab countries, but get all sniffy when it happens here.

Start of the British Spring, perhaps?
But are the two groups of protesters so comparable? On the one hand you've got a population finally managing to rise up against a decades long dictatorship and on the other hand you've got bored youths raiding Bodyshop for a bit of fun. (OK, massive generalization, but you know what I mean)
I agree with you - there is no comparision, FT must of been joking :)
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Totally_Baffled wrote:FT must of been joking :)
Oops, I see!! I've been away too long - lost my sense of irony :?
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BTW....

For anybody watching those pictures of a burning furniture store in Croydon and don't know the area, that road junction is literally right next to what is arguably the most historically important building in Croydon. It's called "The Old Palace" and is currently a school for girls, but for 500 years it was the summer residence of the Archbishops of Canterbury.

ETA: Kicking off in Clapham now. Reports of ten-year-olds carrying away crates of beer and cigarettes. Apparently no police present. I guess they are busy.
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Erik wrote:
featherstick wrote:How curious - we applaud bunches of disaffected, unemployed, marginalised youths for protesting against a rotten corrupt closed elite in the Arab countries, but get all sniffy when it happens here.

Start of the British Spring, perhaps?
But are the two groups of protesters so comparable? On the one hand you've got a population finally managing to rise up against a decades long dictatorship and on the other hand you've got bored youths raiding Bodyshop for a bit of fun. (OK, massive generalization, but you know what I mean)
I think they are just a bit confused. I've been engaging in a Twitter campaign to encourage them to sack the Whitehall Currys and the Downing Street McDonalds.
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Have to admit, the idea of all these smug liberal middle class types living in 'edgy' Clapham, Hackney and Peckham terrified at the reality of their multicultural fantasies blowing up in their faces is rather amusing.

Of course, it won't do much good for their house prices! The other fact that should terrify these middle class idiots is the fact that once these kids get bored ransacking the local shops, their next target will be the posh million pound homes in the middle class enclaves around these slums of the poor.

I suspect that the liberal elite off Highgate and Islington are getting a bit nervious...

Do these scenes strike you as very Last Light by Alex Scarrow? It certainly does to me and frankly it scares the shit out of me.
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Lord Beria3 wrote:I'm increasingly angry about what I am seeing. Its about time the police cracked down on these thugs and looters - bring on the water cannons, plastic bullets and so on.

What the **** are the police up to?
Outmanouvered?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/0 ... ce-tactics

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/0 ... ons-centre

If this continues to spread then they'll need to recruit and deploy vigilantes via twitter to maintain order.
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See the gun there? :shock: I hope there will be a priority effort to investigate and apprehend him. Someone that young stupid and overconfident shouldn't be anywhere near firearms.

Alex Scarrow did come to mind. And right now, it's only toys and games, not food...
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No, unless that's a euphemism.
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