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Here is probably the most reliable source of information as to what is happening in France, and the system which the EU is hoping to inflict on all the other countries, including the UK if it is still in the EU, using the “EU police force�. A handy gadget as “policemen� are shipped in from another country, so they have no thought for the people they are inflicting their “authority� on.

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And something else the French “authorities� are up to:

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I wasn't at all happy about being told that because I don't like the EU that I hate the French or the Germans.

The proposed EU army will be used in a similar way with our army based in barracks somewhere else in the EU and someone else's army being based here in the UK so that if they are told to fire on a crowd they will have fewer qualms about gunning down unarmed civilians.

I'll listen to the rest of the video later.
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Macron is in bother, Le Pen has got more votes in the EU election.

https://youtu.be/Lfi7rTYi-2A

And Macron doing a May look alike, and refusing to change policies. Stubborn or what?

https://youtu.be/T1Q1zhl9SDc
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Simon Fairlie on the Gilets Jaunes:

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It still surprises me that many people regard the French yellow vest protestors as being allies of the UK climate change protestors.

The French protestors central demand is cheaper road fuel in order that more people can afford to burn more of it and thereby worsen climate change.
A subsidiary demand is for higher speed limits or reduced speeding fines in order that even more fuel can be burnt.
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raspberry-blower wrote:Simon Fairlie on the Gilets Jaunes:

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Thanks for sharing, as usual Fairlie makes useful contribution.
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adam2 wrote:It still surprises me that many people regard the French yellow vest protestors as being allies of the UK climate change protestors.

The French protestors central demand is cheaper road fuel in order that more people can afford to burn more of it and thereby worsen climate change.
A subsidiary demand is for higher speed limits or reduced speeding fines in order that even more fuel can be burnt.
That is not accurate in my view Adam. Yes, to be sure, the initial protests were about fuel prices. But, those protests have since morphed into something much bigger than that. Indeed, I don' think they ever were fundamentally about petrol prices. That issue was merely the trigger.
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raspberry-blower wrote:Simon Fairlie on the Gilets Jaunes:

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6,000 Euro per year on their CAR!?!?!
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adam2 wrote:It still surprises me that many people regard the French yellow vest protestors as being allies of the UK climate change protestors.

The French protestors central demand is cheaper road fuel in order that more people can afford to burn more of it and thereby worsen climate change.
A subsidiary demand is for higher speed limits or reduced speeding fines in order that even more fuel can be burnt.
“Worsen climate change�?

You have no justification for that statement.

The protests were because of general increases of energy supplies as I understand, that means domestic electricity. However, getting the truth in this situation is going to be difficult given the mis-information put about by the government.
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ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:
raspberry-blower wrote:Simon Fairlie on the Gilets Jaunes:

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6,000 Euro per year on their CAR!?!?!
Skimming the article I think that figure may include fuel.
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woodburner wrote:
adam2 wrote:It still surprises me that many people regard the French yellow vest protestors as being allies of the UK climate change protestors.

The French protestors central demand is cheaper road fuel in order that more people can afford to burn more of it and thereby worsen climate change.
A subsidiary demand is for higher speed limits or reduced speeding fines in order that even more fuel can be burnt.
“Worsen climate change�?
Once upon a time, the climate changed in huge and terribly inconvenient ways for humans.
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woodburner wrote:..........
“Worsen climate change�?

You have no justification for that statement.

...............
Here's a YouTube video for you, woodburner, of an American congress woman asking an ex Exonn scientist whether Exxon knew about global warming in the 1980s. He confirms that he told them about global warming and predicted it correctly at 1 degC by now and that humans burning oil would cause it.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:
woodburner wrote:..........
“Worsen climate change�?

You have no justification for that statement.

...............
Here's a YouTube video for you, woodburner, of an American congress woman asking an ex Exonn scientist whether Exxon knew about global warming in the 1980s. He confirms that he told them about global warming and predicted it correctly at 1 degC by now and that humans burning oil would cause it.
Yes, we oil and gas folks are aware that there is a reason why we get paid pretty well, and not to get stuff wrong.
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If Exxon scientists knew so probably did those of other companies. Yes, extracting and selling oil was and still is legal, and deceiving the public over the results of the use of their product was probably not a crime but perhaps it should be. People like woodburner still believe their lies.

We might get them under advertising standards legislation in the UK but the fines for that would be made up in a few hours of sales.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:If Exxon scientists knew so probably did those of other companies.
I agree.
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