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The Flametree Project

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:58 pm
by emordnilap
I can't recall seeing this being discussed on PS, though its aims are dear to most posters' hearts.

http://dkeenan.com/Flametree.pdf

Ignore the very slight hippy angle and have a read (start from page 5 to dig straight in). Worth a look, especially for Telegraph readers.

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:26 pm
by mikepepler
Some good ideas in there, but the key is why should people bother doing them? I've heard that about 1 in 10 is motivated by the 'fear factor' - it was reading 'The Party's Over' that got me going in 2004. But what about the 9 in 10? There's some work being done on this, such as the reports here (the older ones give an overview): http://valuesandframes.org/downloads/

Also CAT's latest ZCB report: http://www.zerocarbonbritain.com/en/making-it-happen

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:53 pm
by woodburner
"Humans may be extinct sometime between 2025 and 2050." Is probably the best thing that could happen to the planet.

Give up showering one day a week? This is just gross self indulgence. A shower once a week should be adequate. Modern western washing ideas are just bonkers, and probably excessive to the point of being unhealthy.

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:23 am
by emordnilap
woodburner wrote:Give up showering one day a week? This is just gross self indulgence. A shower once a week should be adequate.
True but that's irrelevant to the aim of the suggested plan. You'd hardly expect them to jump in the deep end. :lol:

Besides, they're preaching to the converted, similar to what Mike is saying, as 9 out of 10 people are not going consider reading it, let alone acting on it, should they even come across it.