Hunting with a catapult/slingshot

[Snail]

They don't need a license.

[ReserveGrowthRulz]

. i wish we were allowed to have firearms but here in the UK the only people with guns are the military, the police and of course the criminals.

That's just not true. Anyone can own a shotgun or firearm provided you can show that you you have somewhere to shoot and convince your doctor that you are sane to get the license/certificate.

Outstanding!

[ReserveGrowthRulz]

I'm fairly certain you don't need one in Scotland. Need one for an air rifle.

WHAT? An AIR rifle?

[Snail]

Blow guns are illegal. But toy ones are ok. As are hollow tubes.

[Catweazle]

I'm fairly certain you don't need one in Scotland. Need one for an air rifle.

WHAT? An AIR rifle?

How about blowguns?

Yes, and an air rifle that makes more than 12ft lbs energy is classed as a firearm, same as a powder burner.

Blowpipes are prohibited weapons, like sawn-off shotguns, semi-auto centrefire rifles and replica Japanese swords.

We have some glitches in the system, for sure, but if you can demonstrate a need for a firearm you can have it, provided you're not considered a risk.

Perhaps our craziest piece of firearms law is that if anyone thinks something is a firearm it becomes a firearm. So if Mrs Brown waves a toy plastic cap gun at the yobbos kicking her cat down the street she can be charged with a firearms offence and jailed.

[ReserveGrowthRulz]

Blowpipes are prohibited weapons, like sawn-off shotguns, semi-auto centrefire rifles and replica Japanese swords.

Oh, well then that makes perfect sense.

[boisdevie]

"if you can demonstrate a need for a firearm you can have it"

And there is the problem If I go to the police station and state that I want a Glock because I feel the need to defend myself they'd tell me to F--k off.

[Mark]

"if you can demonstrate a need for a firearm you can have it"

And there is the problem If I go to the police station and state that I want a Glock because I feel the need to defend myself they'd tell me to F--k off.

And rightly so...., luckily the UK isn't a place where people routinely wave guns around...
The Police come down very hard if there's ever a sniff of a firearm in an incident...
So, unless you're an underworld criminal, why would you need one ?

[boisdevie]

"if you can demonstrate a need for a firearm you can have it"

And there is the problem If I go to the police station and state that I want a Glock because I feel the need to defend myself they'd tell me to F--k off.

And rightly so...., luckily the UK isn't a place where people routinely wave guns around...
The Police come down very hard if there's ever a sniff of a firearm in an incident...
So, unless you're an underworld criminal, why would you need one ?

I'm not going to wave guns around.
I want the ability to defend myself.

[Little John]

No requirement for a license for a crossbow in England. Which means this is technically legal....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbKGjRoSofA

[vtsnowedin]

No requirement for a license for a crossbow in England. Which means this is technically legal....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbKGjRoSofA

The guy really enjoys his hobby.
I wonder if a sheep rustler came into the ER with a butt full of bolts if they would report it as a gunshot wound and call the cops?

[Mark]

"if you can demonstrate a need for a firearm you can have it"

And there is the problem If I go to the police station and state that I want a Glock because I feel the need to defend myself they'd tell me to F--k off.

And rightly so...., luckily the UK isn't a place where people routinely wave guns around...
The Police come down very hard if there's ever a sniff of a firearm in an incident...
So, unless you're an underworld criminal, why would you need one ?

I'm not going to wave guns around.
I want the ability to defend myself.

From who - the Lancaster Mafia ?
https://www.lancashire.police.uk/help-a ... gun-crime/
https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/media/905 ... ashire.pdf

Maybe you keep some odd acquaintances ?
Or maybe you have a tendency for paranoia ?

[boisdevie]

Or maybe you have a tendency for paranoia ?

Thanks for the insult. I am not pararoid but I do have a low tolerance of first class arseholes thanks.

[vtsnowedin]

Gun crime includes any crime that involves the use of a gun or firearm. This includes:

A murder where the victim was shot
Any situation where a gun was fired, whether anyone was injured or not
A robbery or burglary where the thieves carried a gun as a weapon
intimidating people with a firearm
Carrying a gun that is banned, like a handgun
Carrying or using an imitation gun
Hiding a gun or keeping it for someone else
Owning a gun without a licence

So if you scare off the sheep rustlers with your 12 gauge legal shotgun without discharging it you have committed a gun crime?
How civilized of you.

[Little John]

Gun crime includes any crime that involves the use of a gun or firearm. This includes:

A murder where the victim was shot
Any situation where a gun was fired, whether anyone was injured or not
A robbery or burglary where the thieves carried a gun as a weapon
intimidating people with a firearm
Carrying a gun that is banned, like a handgun
Carrying or using an imitation gun
Hiding a gun or keeping it for someone else
Owning a gun without a licence

So if you scare off the sheep rustlers with your 12 gauge legal shotgun without discharging it you have committed a gun crime?....

Probably.

I guess I should make clear, here, my own views on the issue of citizens being armed.

In principle, I have no objections to citizens being armed in order to defend themselves, their families, communities or property.

In practice, there are quite a few qualifications I need to add to the above.

Some societies are not culturally cohesive and are based instead, on a relentless encouraging of competition between members of that society. In itself, this would not be an insurmountable impediment to the owning of deadly arms amongst the citizenry. But, it doesn't help and is likely to lead to some competitions getting deadly. However, a much more serious problem is the fact that in a society like, for example, the USA, there is the added issue of the lunatic levels of economic disparity between the haves and have nots. This is bound to breed resentment. And, finally, on top of that is a cultural narrative that seeks to place the entire responsibility for one's economic place in the scheme of things entirely on the individual.

So, you end up with a situation where people are told they must engage in endless competitions with their neighbors for their slice of the cake. But where, in reality, the game of life is rigged and, finally, where there is no comfort to be found in at least acknowledging that the game is rigged and knowing that there is little to be done about that. Instead, people fully internalize their lack of success in life and, eventually, this drives them to a burning resentment at best and insanity at worst. And all of this in the context of a culture which has elevated consumerism and avarice to a national religion. All of the above is, I believe, the explanation for the USA's huge incidence of mass killings by loony individuals.

So, what happens in countries whose citizens are well armed and where the game of life may be equally rigged, but where there is not the bullshit cultural narrative pretending that it is not rigged? Armed revolution and bloody overthrows by the mass of the people of the folks in charge is what happens.

Having said all of the above, reality is what it is. We too live in an atomized, consumerist driven society in the UK, albeit not quite as bad as the US. The bad guys will have weapons and, if the authorities will not protect ordinary citizens, one way or another they will protect themselves either as individuals or as collectives.

Personally speaking I have taken the steps I need to protect myself, my family and my community, should the need arise.